I wanted Moyes at Spurs too (Martinez was my second choice and Rodgers 3rd), still think he's a very good manager to be honest. Fergie was an incredible manager but he also left Utd at the ideal time. Many players are well past their peak now and it was obvious that before long, even if Fergie had stayed, Utd would've needed an overhaul of talent at some point. The one thing Fergie could do that set him aside from pretty much every single manager was that he could make any half decent, average Joe look like a world beater which has made Moyes' job even harder as not only as he had to deal with ageing players but he's also noticed at just how poor others are.
Moyes has walked into Utd at their weakest state in around 10-15 years in my opinion and while he has made some odd choices, especially in terms of not strengthening much in the summer, he's come in for some unfair flack.
As for AVB, the man was a poison to this club. I and many others (even if some didn't want to admit it at the time) could see he wouldn't fit well us, his Chelsea stint was a major warning sign but unfortunately Levy clearly missed it. The poor football AVB imposed on us over the 18 months (Bale's heroics papered over a lot of it) has sunk in to the point where we can't just suddenly snap back in to the free-flowing Tottenham we were used to seeing prior to his tenure. I do partly blame him for the poor impacts of most of our new lads too, getting players who had exciting reputations prior to joining us to play a boring, defensively-minded system was never going to help their settling in process.
Moyes has walked into Utd at their weakest state in around 10-15 years in my opinion and while he has made some odd choices, especially in terms of not strengthening much in the summer, he's come in for some unfair flack.
As for AVB, the man was a poison to this club. I and many others (even if some didn't want to admit it at the time) could see he wouldn't fit well us, his Chelsea stint was a major warning sign but unfortunately Levy clearly missed it. The poor football AVB imposed on us over the 18 months (Bale's heroics papered over a lot of it) has sunk in to the point where we can't just suddenly snap back in to the free-flowing Tottenham we were used to seeing prior to his tenure. I do partly blame him for the poor impacts of most of our new lads too, getting players who had exciting reputations prior to joining us to play a boring, defensively-minded system was never going to help their settling in process.