People find republicanism offensive due to what,parts of, it represents...the killing of innocents in the name if politics. So, I can see why people would be offended at a song celebrating the lives of people, jailed due to political beliefs that made them commit criminal acts, who killed themselves in prison supporting politics that people found offensive.
Celtic are a Scottish club with Irish roots based in Scotland playing in the Scottish league...singing songs about a political movement that killed innocent people in support if a cause in another country will offend people.
Really? And how exactly have I done that? I have acknowledged that you, and others, are offended. I have asked you to justify your rationale as to why you have stated the content is offensive and you have repeatedly failed to do so.
So after everything you have said you are telling me that I should be offenfed by it? This is getting Kafka-esque.
Here's a bit I wrote about Bobby Sands: http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/231342-Armed-Forces-Day-at-Ibrox/page2 What you said: I've told you several times what the song is about, what the message is, who the song is about and what the background is, none of the individual names mentioned in the song offend me, None, why would they?
And it celebrates the life/death of members of an outlawed terrorist group or groups who killed innocent people in the name of political beliefs... Martyrs for a cause that many in mainland UK find offensive...
That maybe the case, and I support people's right to do so...but not a football match ...and nit whilst representing one social group I.e. Celtic fans. Go to a March, you are all like minded... go to a neutral place , a football stadium, you are likely to cause offence.
So March organisers request permission to march from the Police? They don't, they ask permssion from the Local Authority/Council who are responsible for the place where the march takes place. The Police have little say in the matter.
I meant if you go to a March....by choice, then you are all like minded. Not if it goes past you... I find orange and republican marches offensive...so I tend to stay out of the area they are in.
This is reasonable. In reaching that point you have taken three steps away from the song and its contents. And this illustrates my point wrt the implementation of the Act. You have to step away from the contents of the song, you have to step away from the events the song is referencing before you can even start to think about where offence is found. Dev wants to cut out a few steps to justify his position and in turn give credence to the criminalising of a song. That is why I am so vehemently attacking his position because it just doesn't add up. I have repeatedly asked him to try and tally it, but he hasn't.
Or the police could apply the law and stop these marches. People should not have to avoid places because of the idiots in the world.
