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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Missing Lambo, Sep 23, 2013.

  1. Big_Si

    Big_Si Active Member

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    I think the main problem was that he was a foreign coach who had only managed in League 1 and didn't come with any Premier League credentials other than being a good player but one who lacked discipline. If it was an ex Sunderland legend who got the job in those circumstances then it would probably have gone down better but I don't think he came with the credentials to get the full respect from the dressing room from the start. By criticising them in public he would have pushed them further away, particularly when players there have been managed by the likes of Fergie.

    There were far too many new players he had to try and gel together straight away and it was obvious he had no idea as to what his best team was which would give the impression that he didn't know what he was doing. He should have got the dressing room onside and given them the chance to perform for him but he didn't. I would suggest PDC's next stop is a spell working alongside Nigel Adkins, he may well learn a bit about man management.
     
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  2. timatoketchup

    timatoketchup Well-Known Member

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    Can someone tell me why he would not allow ice cubes in coke?
     
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  3. Piebacca

    Piebacca Well-Known Member

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    Because he's a mental.
     
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  4. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Surely the question is...why was coke allowed. Hardly a health drink!
     
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  5. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    Maybe they weren't drinking it!
     
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  6. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I see. Danger of ice cubes getting stuck up the nose...health and safety issue.
     
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  7. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    Yes could be very nasty.
     
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  8. Saints by name, Saints by nature

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    I read that the player revolt was led by the British players. It sounded like they didn't want to work as hard as Di Canio wanted, nor like being held accountable for their mistakes in public. If you're being paid £50k a week then surely you should be expected to follow what your manager wants and not complain to the chairman if it gets too tough.
     
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  9. Qwerty

    Qwerty Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure either.
     
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  10. AberdeenSaint

    AberdeenSaint Well-Known Member

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    Given his ego, I don`t see PDC playing any player he didn`t want to sign.
     
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  11. Piebacca

    Piebacca Well-Known Member

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    Why exactly does high wages mean they have to take abuse from their boss?
     
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  12. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    You can get away with tough talking if you have the players' respect...they will accept it and feel as if they've let you down. Naming players in public is just plain poor management.
     
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  13. SaintStinger

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    So how exactly would you expect to be treated if you were not doing the job you were paid for, not giving 100%, embarrassing yourself and the company you worked for and letting down thousands of paying customers week in week out?
     
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  14. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    You'd expect action to be taken but not in front of the rest of the workforce.
     
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  15. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    On the subject of points being missed, it's not the players who sacked Di Canio, it was Ellis Short - the same guy who appointed him in the first place. Presumably Di Canio got sacked because of poor results, which suggests panic on the part of his employer.

    God knows who'll want that job next, though it's in the nature of the game that there'll be plenty of candidates for the poisoned chalice. As for the players, they're not currently looking like great assets, are they?
     
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  16. SaintStinger

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    Yes that's true but according to reports he stuck the boot into the whole team in the dressing room afterwards.
     
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  17. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    Trouble is.....How could you respect anyone like De Canio? Right from the off he caused problems by telling the players it was their fault they were at the wrong end of the league, back in March. That is not exactly the way to endear himself to the players. Add to that his public outbursts for admonishing his players in public just asking for trouble. Perhaps he should have been reminded he brought some of them in........Sadly he was too full of his own importance.......his antics on the touchline embarrassed some of the players and also their owner by all accounts.
    As someone else mentioned it was a poor decision to engage him for a team like Sunderland, anyway.
     
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  18. Piebacca

    Piebacca Well-Known Member

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    If you're going to criticise somebody, you do it in private.
     
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  19. Lovelocum

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    He should not have criticized his players in public but he must have been very frustrated. If you were managing a disorganized rabble with no discipline then most people would lose their rag. No they should not be expected to take abuse but for 50k a week they should be expected to give 110%. I'm sure he has spoken to them in private but if they won't work hard for him what can he do?

    If a player does not work their guts out in training at saints he would not start. If the whole squad didn't what would MP do? Field the best he could and take the wrap when we get thrashed?
     
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  20. Joe!

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    Where's that come from? I'd heard he didn't allow fizzy drinks altogether.
     
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