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Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by GozoCanary, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    ah, please don't take it personally! as i stated, it was a generalisation.
     
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  2. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    Count it as a compliment - Supers told me he thought you were 17

    :stir the pot smiley:
     
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  3. Tony_Munky_Canary

    Tony_Munky_Canary Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely damn bloody right I was <somersault>
     
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  4. Tony_Munky_Canary

    Tony_Munky_Canary Well-Known Member

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    Nobody on here has made any comparison with Roeder have they? I mentioned him yesterday, but only in response to the notion that it "takes a manager time to get to know his squad" when I highlighted how the Rodent was Mr.Wonderful at the start and had that long unbeaten run. Turns out that it "takes a Rodent time to lose the dressing room and get his squad to hate his guts" would be the best way to describe him <laugh>

    I really wasn't comparing the two at all, and I'll repeat I've never said I want Hootun out or for us to change managers, it was just an example I happened to use about how manager's can hit the ground running with a new squad - not that I want anyone to try doing that with us right now <ok>
     
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    Damn! Now I've blown my cover as Ageism Monitor! <laugh><ok>
     
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  6. Fenland Canary

    Fenland Canary Active Member

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    You sure?, with all these cries of Hughton out already I wouldn't be surprised :p, if we draw or lose against the saints I can see the CH bashers kicking right off!
     
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    robbieBB Well-Known Member

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    Based on the current rash of falsehoods and false logic on here, carrabuh must be by far the oldest on this board, indeed he must be some sort of fossil (which would at least explain why his ideas are apparently set in stone). <ok>
     
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  8. Fenland Canary

    Fenland Canary Active Member

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    So who here is of the opinion that it takes time to build a team into a working gelled unit?, some think that CH should be able to hit the ground running and the team should be an instant success.
     
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  9. Canary Rob

    Canary Rob Well-Known Member

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    I think for some teams it takes time, others it doesn't. Sometimes you can make wholesale squad changes and hit the ground running, sometimes you can't. Sometimes it depends on the quality of the players, sometimes it doesn't. Some players can fit in easily, others take time or never. Some positions are easy to replace, others aren't.

    Hope that helps!
     
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  10. JM Fan

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    A very sensible post and I have to say I agree with most of it. I was just talking with another fan having coffee and both Swansea and Saints have made some excellent buys in this transfer window. Last night's display was excellent and I know we won't get that sort of space aginst other PL teams, but we looked as though we wanted to go forward and score goals. <ok>
     
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  11. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    sometimes it takes time, sometimes its instant. our biggest problem this summer has been keeping key players fit and unfortunately its carrying on into the season - that's not the managers fault! we've had numerous injury problems and its disrupted all our plans. until we can get a grip of what our strongest eleven is (if there is one) or at least get key players fit and playing again it's very difficult to judge how successful this side will be. i'd suggest we've so far only played one of our first choice defenders so far in either league game. last year we lost ruddy, a key player but we still managed to stay up. we've probably had five or six so far - had we had this many injuries last season i think we'd have gone down so its imperative that people remain patient until such time that its actually obvious that the manager is taking us backwards. i'm yet to see a trend which suggests he's even started taking us backwards which is why i find it utterly insane to suggest giving ultimatums or timescales for dismissal.
     
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  12. Tony_Munky_Canary

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    That was kinda my point - football isn't an exact science <ok>
     
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  13. DHCanary

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    I think as a side we might take longer to gel than others, as we've got a completely different type of striker to feed this season. The approach play has to change to reflect that, and that can take time.
     
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    Exactly. The new players combined with injuries to key players meant that we couldn't exxperiment with the full team during pre-season friendlies - something that several posters on here (and 'Pink Un') choose to ignore. Let's hope R Bennett's injury isn't too serious.
     
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  15. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    i notice all our goals came from open play last night too. and so far, of the 8 goals scored, 5 have come from new summer signings.
     
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    Very valid point last season so many goals came from set pieces it was worrying.
     
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  17. Walsh.i.am

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    I commented on that at the time, too. Great for Fer and Elmander to score to help settle them in at the club and well taken - almost carbon-copy strikes, from Olsson and Pilks.
    With adult admission at £10, the evening worked out to £1.11 per goal scored on the night. I defy anyone to find me better value than that.
    (A friend of a friend who came along last night recently paid £56 to see Chelski v Aston Villa @ £18.66 per goal scored <yikes>)
     
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  18. THURNBY CANARY

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    Generally people need time and they are fortunate if they hit the ground running. I suppose the most famous instance is SAF where his initial period was pretty unimpressive and he was close to the sack (saved by Mark Robins as folklore goes) the rest as they say is history.
    CH has been a divisive figure to a degree because he has not produced consistently the type of football that many Canaries want on a regular basis and some want to replace him with a more attacking minded manager. As Supers said earlier in this thread "be careful what you wish for" and the example of Wolves and Charlton have correctly been mentioned as a comparative where managers (McCarthy and Curbishley) were sacked as under-performing only to see their respective teams get relegated. Twice in both cases. Perhaps some of our more gung-ho posters might wish to be a tad more circumspect on such matters. Some hope!
     
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  19. DHCanary

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    I can beat that, the EDP had a BOGOF promo on last night's tickets, so I only paid 55p a goal!
     
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  20. Fenland Canary

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    looks like a few supporters have been giving DM a bit of stick on his twitter account:

    "@davidmcnally62 Don't you think it's a bit demoralizing for the fans dishing out £40 + travel to see such a defensive mind set every week?"

    "@davidmcnally62 Our followings are going to be embarrassingly low If our attitude to away games doesn't improve. It's just not worth the £££"

    "&#8220;@Scooterevesy: spot on lofty. We only escaped last season because the last two teams we played had nothing to play for.&#8221;"

    https://twitter.com/davidmcnally62

    Some people are so ungrateful for what DM has done for the club.
     
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