Sorry Tobes, but I don't know anything of the sort. If he was trying to force them to refuse to play then he'd have gone about it like Mourinho - dropping hints in the media about Baines needing to play in the CL to secure an England spot, Fellaini risking losing out to all the Belgian players at big clubs etc etc. Like I said, he's obviously hoping Fellaini and Baines will request a move, but then when does a manager trying to sign a player ever not do that? You may have head Baines was contacted by Moyes, but ultimately that's no more reliable than something written in the Sun, regardless of who you heard it from. Unless you actually have any evidence or a statement from one of the players concerned then it's all just a load of hot air.
So trying to nick our best 2 players on the cheap isn't damaging? I wouldn't like to see what he'd try & do if he no affection for us then.......
Alcaraz was a free agent, so let's not count him eh. He's bought 1 player from Wigan - Kone & he paid the release clause in his contract.
Kone's release clause was all over he media just like Fellaini's was, the difference being that we just paid it......
He approached his Chairman first, he was straight with Whelan , I think you'll find its called integrity
Of course only evil Man Utd would brief the press all summer about signing players, never Everton inform the papers about the release clause.
Don`t think we have mentioned a single target yet, the only firm lnks a player has had with us is when their club have announced we have put in a bid.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-remember-you-are-allowed-to-bid-8784524.html Good article. Apparently and this has shocked some people but you are allowed to sign players in the transfer window.
Martinez has said in the express newspaper today: So Everton are allowed to talk to other clubs, possibly in the process unsettling their players by speaking in public about it; but Utd are not permitted to make private official bids which are totally within the transfer rules. Roberto you two faced idiot.
Managers wont approach players directly without the consent of the club, not since the whole Ashley Cole/Jose Mourinho thing. If a manager gets insider info on a players contract (ie Release clauses), it will have been from the players agent. Agents are constantly pimping players out to other teams and putting the feelers out to other clubs, and of course the agents know their clients contracts inside and out. And the agents want the players to switch clubs because they get a huge commission for negotiating a huge contract for the player, which nowadays runs into millions of pounds. Its all the dirty agents!!
Perhaps but Roberto of course has no problem speaking to the player via the agent thus circumventing the club who hold his contract and encouraging him to leave. Like I said, two faced.
He doesn't mention that he's spoken to either the player or his agent, all he said is that he's been looking at a contingency plan.
Pretty much. It's the standard way transfers pan out nowadays. Agents let other managers know their players are willing to move, and leak all the details to the media. The buying club makes a bid, the player's manager rejects it, often with some public whining, the boards negotiate, the buying manager pretends he's being ethical whilst using various degrees of public and private comments to encourage the player to seek a move. Either the clubs agree a fee, with or without pressure from the player and agent to do so, or they don't. It's been happening for years, so I don't understand why people get so high and mighty about it. Like that Independent article Const posted, I think managers only do it to try and gull their fans into thinking that they are so clever and superior to everyone else, whilst happily doing exactly the same thing behind the scenes.
