Now I can totally disagree with you - but then I'd only be accused of being patronising! I post my views. I try to be as honest as I can regarding my opinions and I will defend them vigorously. If that upsets you then so be it. However, if I am attacked I will respond. Now I challenge you to find any post that I have made today that patronised anybody until Tobes came in with his comments!
I've been forum judged by that particular member also Too easy to read "aggravation""wound up" in posts that may OR may not actually be the case. I disagree with the assessment, the "opposition supporter" comment is off the mark, there have been gleeful arsenal wums and we all know Tobes loves to disagree whatever the subject as long as he can argue the opposite, and I suspect he is more than happy to piss people off as the format of many of his posts are designed to do just that even if he does make good points, god love him he can be very condescending We''re all entitled to give our opinions, saline one's n'all.
the only people who get wound up are those looking for it. people who come on with an open mind get somewhere. Anwya... have we sold the f'r yet? when does he go off to japan and when is the supposed to come back... i predict the press to publish a "i'm not coming back" story
You posted this, before I'd even posted yesterday; & I'd not passed any form of comment on the saga since Friday.
i like to get warmed up... its like any pro. you should try it sometime.... you wouldn't be puking ten mins into your session all over the arsenal board if you did. I like to get good and angry at work or even better with my missus and then come on here and use bullet points all over the place.
Can't see you being patronised in that quote! Firstly it was not made to YOU. Rather it was made to an earlier post. So put it into context before you portray faux indignation!
'I've just seen Luis in the changing room': Watch Walcott joke about Liverpool striker Suarez joining from Arsenal
Can be expected, backing a fellow countryman. He should have signed for United given he has a penchant for comparisons rather than debating the topic.
They are all living in cloud-cuckoo land. I respect Gus poyet thought...so far he has not say anything one way or the other. He believed Liverpool helped Suarez during his difficult times last season.
This was on the Arsenal board over the weekend, they were using it as another reason that Liverpool/BR/Henry were wrong. I simply responded with "Ah, the impartial Cavani "
Back to the original point though, which is that Luis wants to leave for CL football (and I for one don't blame him, he is a world class player). He stayed last season, when many of us expected/feared he'd go when Kenny went, on what he NOW regards to be tacit understanding that he could go this summer if Liverpool didn't qualify for the CL - fair enough. Despite his advisors asking for this to be written specifically into his contract, Liverpool said no, but they would listen 'in good faith' to offers over £40m from a CL team (which Arsenal technically aren't yet). I have no truck with FSG and John Henry, and I, like I'm sure many others, have been 'victim' to bosses bullshit re verbal promises (if I'm honest I've done my fair share too) but the bottom line, 'in good faith' , is that Liverpool only have to listen to offers and are under no obligation to sell to a fellow EPL team, let alone the one we think we have an outside chance of beating to CL qualification, and the same would apply to Spurs should they become flush with money. All this **** about loyalty is gush on both sides - it's all about pragmatism, and the fact is Luis that had Madrid, Barca, Bayern or PSG put that £40m bid in you'd have been their player now. And that's what your agent promised you, wasn't it Luis, and then he had to scramble around finding anyone who'd match the price and were in the CL (or not yet, as in Arsenal's case)? Good faith, eh?
It always was about power. So for once I'm going to shout "told you so!". Suarez never had any power in this situation to force anything other than the 'strong' response that he has from John Henry. More than that he has forced Henry into demanding a premium for Suarez should any club (other than Arsenal) bid for his services because of the logistical replacement problem. The rapprochement will happen after the window has closed and Suarez and LFC sit down to conclude an exit strategy which could take place either before or after the World Cup.
If Suarez wants to go in Jan to a CL team OUTSIDE the Prem for £40/50m, so be it.....IF he behaves himself until then. If not, and I say this as Luis's biggest fan (left!) then **** him and let him stew in the reserves. Yes, we'll lose money, but we'll be setting a marker on where we stand. Problem may be for the future that when (if?) we get back into the CL of attracting top players who've become accustomed to interpreting their contracts anyway they wish, and getting their agents to engineer a move on whatever whim pleases them.
if there had been a real bid from a foriegn club he would have gone... i just think that... I think the club did all it could to keep him but most of all all they could to maximise return off a bad scenario. if he sees sense, pulls his head in and focuses on the WC 2014 and the shop window then i am sure he'll be sold.... if he goes about like a balotelli character the fa are waiting for him and will ban him for 6 months.
