Suarez News (#ONTOPIC)

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When will Suarez leave?

  • Pre-contract, gone 1st day

  • Gone in July

  • Gone in August

  • Gone on transfer deadline day


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The Reds boss is unhappy with the attitude shown by the Uruguay international - who seems intent on forcing a move to Arsenal - in recent weeks and has been told to train on his own.

Rodgers rejected Suarez's claim he had reneged on an agreement last summer which would allow the player to leave for a Champions League club, saying interviews given by the 26-year-old suggesting as much showed "total disrespect" to the club.

However, Suarez remains determined to find a way out of Anfield and admits even captain Steven Gerrard's pleas for him to stay cannot offset the lure of the Champions League, while also reiterating he would jump at the chance to go to Real Madrid.

"I'm still defending the Liverpool shirt and I will do so until the last minute," Suarez, who was left at home for Wednesday night's friendly against Valerenga in Norway because of injury and is unlikely to feature against Celtic in Dublin on Saturday, told Spanish newspaper Marca.

"My aim is to reach an agreement with the club in a friendly manner and I hope the clause we agreed a year ago is fulfilled. Up to now, it hasn't been.

"It's not that I want to or am desperate to leave, but I like things to be clear and a year ago I made my position to the club clear.

"Gerrard has a lot of history with Liverpool and his words are very important but everyone should understand that I need to play the Champions League to keep growing as a footballer.


"Now I have the chance, I want to take it.

"A Champions League team (Arsenal) is making a big effort to get me and one always wants to be where they feel comfortable.

"There were a lot of rumours (about Real) that were different to reality: Madrid never called me personally or Liverpool to try and negotiate.

"Every player aspires to reach the top and Real Madrid is among the most important clubs in the world. It would be very difficult to say no to Real Madrid."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-a-total-disrespect-to-liverpool-8752200.html

He is not backtracking on his wish to leave Liverpool <doh> all he is doing is trying to keep things amicable between his club and himself.

He repeats his desire and need to leave the club to play champions league.
 
This quote ""It's not that I want to or am desperate to leave" really makes no sense in the context of the wider interview. WTF does he mean
 
So you're saying you have no control as a fan Tobes? Wouldn't have thought that of you.

I'm saying that my tribal loyalty to my club is being exploited. In my case I can continue to afford to attend & therefore make that choice, however I know of many who can no longer justify the expenditure. But if I want to support my team, there is only one option & if that's my prime leisure activity I'm going to pay what it costs.......

You're saying (your arguments) that although football is no longer about the football and purely about money, that club hierarchies don't care about fans, players don't care about fans, that the modern day club doesn't participate or include their local community and instead panders to a global market of TV companies and product placement?

Then what exactly are you "supporting" today: a memory?

I'm supporting football mate, a game that is so popular worldwide that it's become a brand frenzy. Are the clubs, players & Directors disconnected from the fans these days? Yes, at the top level of the game, in the main they are, but this debate was about players & the ridiculous assertion by bonehead Barnes, that it was the supporters fault that these guys were now egomaniacs with the loyalty of an alley cat.

Despite the fact that clubs have us paying over the odds for tickets, merchandise is expensive blah, blah, the prime difference in the current era is TV revenue & the Bosman ruling combined, as these 2 factors forced the cash out of the game & into the bank accounts of players & their agents. It's a fact, there's no debate to be had on the matter.


You can talk about the good old days all you want but that according to you no longer exists as a football club.

So in effect when you say you're a supporter you're really a class reunion attendee?

That's a daft comment, football's tribal & those who attend do so as they love it & the association, it's escapism in a way.

Or do you think that as supporters we can do something about it, by, as I suggested being selective buyers. I mean if the thing you support no longer holds any element (other than displaying a primary colour) you have 3 choices; walk away with your memories of what it was; embrace the gaudy commercialism in all its last days of the Roman Empire, giving up you're right to complain or start exerting pressure in the most effective way: don't buy merchandise, don't buy sky, don't buy a ticket until the money falls away and the club returns to a small local football event.

I mean if we don't express our principles as fans and customers where it matters then do we actually hold those principles? And if not then what are we whining about?

Who's whining? it is what it is, I may not agree with the way it's gone, I don't like the fact that the players are so well paid, I think football at the top level has lost touch with the working man, but I still attend. Why? because ultimately I still love the game.

However, what I resent, is some tit like Barnes, telling me that I'm to blame for overpaid mercenary ****s like Suarez behaving like spoilt brats.

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where would he fit in the Madrid team ? benzema Ronaldo di maria? tough competition if he goes to madrid
Real are happy to offload Di Maria. Not sure if he's being pushed or they'd just be happy to let him go if/when Bale arrives though. Suarez would depend on formation I guess, maybe behind Benzema. I don't know how Ancelotti sets up his teams
 
Carra backs Luis Suarez training ban and tells striker to 'sort himself'

LFC great says Suarez 'wasn't player he knew' during training for Steven Gerrard's testimonial.

Jamie Carragher says Brendan Rodgers' decision to banish Luis Suarez from Liverpool FC training is the right one .

And the former Anfield ace has called upon Suarez to &#8220;sort himself&#8221;, stating that the Uruguayan's ongoing dispute with the club could serve as a distraction to the Reds' preparations for the new season.

Suarez has gone public with his desire to leave Merseyside , accusing Liverpool of breaking a promise to sell him this summer and expressing his desire to join Premier League rivals Arsenal.

Rodgers has vowed to take &#8220;strong and decisive&#8221; action against the controversial 26-year-old, who will not train with the Reds' first team until the issue is resolved.

And Carragher says he detected a change in his former teammate last week, when he trained with the Reds squad ahead of Steven Gerrard's testimonial.

He said: "I know Luis and I've played with him in the last couple of years and he's a warrior. He's a fighter on the pitch and every day in training. He never misses a session.

"I went in to Friday training before Stevie's testimonial and that wasn't the Luis Suarez I knew.

"I think it's right for Brendan Rodgers to take him out of the group because no one player is bigger than the team or the squad.

"He's not going to be playing because he's banned, so Liverpool need to concentrate on getting it right for the first game of the season against Stoke.

"If Suarez is a distraction for everyone then he needs to be taken out of the group."

Asked if he would have any words for Suarez if he were still playing, Carragher said: &#8220;Sort yourself. You can't have that and can't accept that.

"There's ways and means of going about it. Players get transferred all the time and you can't always have what you want.

"Liverpool Football Club have got to protect themselves as well. Arsenal are a big rival for a top-four place and maybe if he wanted to go somewhere else it wouldn't be such a big issue and maybe Liverpool would sanction a deal.

"Nobody wants unhappy players at the training ground or on the pitch playing. It affects other people.

"But it's very difficult for Liverpool, like the Wayne Rooney situation with Manchester United and Chelsea. They're direct rivals and that's the big deal. That's the problem."

He added:"He can't carry on the way he's been carrying on. Brendan Rodgers has come out and said that nobody is bigger than the club and that's exactly right.

"There will be agents and probably people at Arsenal talking to him, but he's a grown man. He's not a kid, he's got a family and he needs to make his own decisions and what's right for him.

"It's also how he's coming across as a person to the Liverpool public and the country in general.

"Of course Arsenal want to get the player, but sometimes you've got to remember how people are seeing the situation and how people are looking at you."

Some wisdom from Carragher.
 
Real are happy to offload Di Maria. Not sure if he's being pushed or they'd just be happy to let him go if/when Bale arrives though. Suarez would depend on formation I guess, maybe behind Benzema. I don't know how Ancelotti sets up his teams

When we lose Suarez would you take di maria and rely on Sturridge, Aspas, Borini as the CF options? Or would you prefer someone who can play up top?
 
He is openly flirting with Madrid whilst throwing in a few caveats about how he isnt desperate to leave just incase anybody accuses him of being in breach of contract.

Basically he is trying everything and anything to get the hell out of there.

I repeat what I said in one of my posts:

if he had 'made his position clear' in the appropriate manner, i.e not signing a new big money, long term contract, and agreed to stay another year on his original deal to try and help liverpool qualify for the champions' league, liverpool would be the bad guys right now for standing in his way. He would be on the side of reason and decency and liverpool would have to back down.

By signing the lucritive, big money, long term contract he has made his position clear in black and white - he is commited to the club for the forseeable future as long as the club wants him.

Personally I hope you dig your heels in and do what is right for the club. to hell with what he wants. Sell to monaco or psg or tell him to grin and bear it and stay where he is.
 
^ that kit is ace & I think Martinez is a whopper mate, so I'm fully expecting him to bomb.
 
yeah youre right but id swap him for suarez right now!

Benzema has long been a target for the varying prem clubs, don't think he would come to us though unless he feels his playing time for France is in jeopardy and he needs the minutes.
 
^ that kit is ace & I think Martinez is a whopper mate, so I'm fully expecting him to bomb.

That kit is shocking tobes! I know we can't talk but that kit isn't very good. Man you could see it on the players. bar I would say Mirallas just doing what he wants, the rest looked a bit lost and really frustrated at the formation.

What happened to pienaar btw?

#ontopic Suarez backtracking on "English press hate me, etc" to now using the press to get his voice out. Why not talk to the club face to face eh?
 
This quote ""It's not that I want to or am desperate to leave" really makes no sense in the context of the wider interview. WTF does he mean

He means that he's not officially demanding a transfer, so that he doesn't have to waive his 'loyalty' bonuses <ok>