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Gerrez said:
And your club has had no dealings in major transfers for about six years! #outoftouch
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Major transfers? ..Like Carroll?

Really? I think your confusing price with Quality. If I pay £180 quid for Primark jeans that does'nt suddenly make them Commes De Garcons.

As for Arsenal - Robin Van Persie, Lukas Podolski, Santi Carzorla, Cesc Fabregas, Samir Nasri etc.. Have all come or gone in recent years. All 'major' transfers.
 
TheBear said:
Major transfers? ..Like Carroll?

Really? I think your confusing price with Quality. If I pay £180 quid for Primark jeans that does'nt suddenly make them Commes De Garcons.
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Fair point <ok>
 
lazarus20000 said:
Not trying to spin anything and I understand your frustration with it, we've gone through it many times over the years. I just want this sorted quicker rather than later, we have yet to sign someone and this one is dragging on more than usual.
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Not frustrated, just seemed like you was spinning it. Apologies <ok>
 
From what I understand of the contract. It is if a club bids 40mn+ Liverpool have to inform Suarez (that is all Liverpool feels it's obligation, as stipulated in the contract, is). Suarez and his agent feel that any offer over 40mn+ allows him to hold talks with the club ( this is where the dispute is as the way the two parties see the clause). There is apparently no buy out clause. From the looks of things it seems Suarezs argument won as the BBC reports he can talk to us without Arsenal having a bid accepted. However Liverpool have no obligation to accept any bid.

The advantage for us I guess is if the talks go well Suarez can hand in a transfer request or engineer a move towards us, so maybe we can get him. However it is important to note that Liverpool have no obligation to accept any bid.
 
velachiperoo said:
From what I understand of the contract. It is if a club bids 40mn+ Liverpool have to inform Suarez (that is all Liverpool feels it's obligation, as stipulated in the contract, is). Suarez and his agent feel that any offer over 40mn+ allows him to hold talks with the club ( this is where the dispute is as the way the two parties see the clause). There is apparently no buy out clause. From the looks of things it seems Suarezs argument won as the BBC reports he can talk to us without Arsenal having a bid accepted. However Liverpool have no obligation to accept any bid.

The advantage for us I guess is if the talks go well Suarez can hand in a transfer request or engineer a move towards us, so maybe we can get him. However it is important to note that Liverpool have no obligation to accept any bid.
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That's what I understand from I've read too. Either way, Liverpool does not have to accept £40,000,001 and the only question mark that remains is whether Suarez can speak to Arsenal or not <ok>
 
velachiperoo said:
From what I understand of the contract. It is if a club bids 40mn+ Liverpool have to inform Suarez (that is all Liverpool feels it's obligation, as stipulated in the contract, is). Suarez and his agent feel that any offer over 40mn+ allows him to hold talks with the club ( this is where the dispute is as the way the two parties see the clause). There is apparently no buy out clause. From the looks of things it seems Suarezs argument won as the BBC reports he can talk to us without Arsenal having a bid accepted. However Liverpool have no obligation to accept any bid.

The advantage for us I guess is if the talks go well Suarez can hand in a transfer request or engineer a move towards us, so maybe we can get him. However it is important to note that Liverpool have no obligation to accept any bid.
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You also forget that Liverpool are under no obligation to accept a transfer request from Suarez either. It really is a matter of Arsenal ****ting or getting off the pot - offer in excess of £50 million or withdraw. It really is that simple.
 
Gerrez said:
Our owners are a lot richer than you give them credit for. However, they have no intention of subsidising the club, they want to club to be self-sustaining which is something I am very happy about after the last wonderful owners we had.
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So how are your owners going to rectify the 40 million pound loss in your last set of financial accounts?
 
I dont like the fact Wenger seems to be hedging all his bets on one forward. (and Liverpool dont seem keen to sell)

Surely £40 Million would buy Rooney?
 
If Fellaini really has a £22m buyout clause why haven't we bought him and Higuain for a combined outlay of £56.5m???

I suppose we don't actually need Fellaini though because Diaby coming back will be like a new signing...
 
enigma said:
So how are your owners going to rectify the 40 million pound loss in your last set of financial accounts?
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Our owners have under-written the clubs debts with interest free no term loans. Look more closely at our last set of published figures and you will find that the £40 million figure is far from being a problem - the majority of it arises from accounting devices to write-off the costs of the old stadium plans ie 1 off costs
 
Red_Pheonix said:
You also forget that Liverpool are under no obligation to accept a transfer request from Suarez either. It really is a matter of Arsenal ****ting or getting off the pot - offer in excess of £50 million or withdraw. It really is that simple.
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Where do I assume you will accept it. Just said he can hand one in and talk up Arsenal to help engineer a move. Which always lowers the price of a player if he does get sold (like players before him have done and after him will do).
 
Red_Pheonix said:
Our owners have under-written the clubs debts with interest free no term loans. Look more closely at our last set of published figures and you will find that the £40 million figure is far from being a problem - the majority of it arises from accounting devices to write-off the costs of the old stadium plans ie 1 off costs
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Ah that old chestnut
 
cini65 said:
If Fellaini really has a £22m buyout clause why haven't we bought him and Higuain for a combined outlay of £56.5m???

I suppose we don't actually need Fellaini though because Diaby coming back will be like a new signing...
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Sure but I can understand why we didnt go for Higuian. Real Madrid being complete douchebags as always.

I would like Fellaini though he would be an excellent signing - but I would prefer Luis Gustavo.
 
enigma said:
Ah that old chestnut
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Now I know that corporate financial statements can be very difficult to fathom but I'm sure you can find somebody who can interpret them for you. In respect of LFC's last financial statements it is quite clear what the 'loss' consists of.
 
velachiperoo said:
Where do I assume you will accept it. Just said he can hand one in and talk up Arsenal to help engineer a move. Which always lowers the price of a player if he does get sold (like players before him have done and after him will do).
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Don't read my lips - look at what LFC are saying. This is a win:win for LFC
 
Red_Pheonix said:
Now I know that corporate financial statements can be very difficult to fathom but I'm sure you can find somebody who can interpret them for you. In respect of LFC's last financial statements it is quite clear what the 'loss' consists of.
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So most of the loss is one of payments, yet the results the season before also showed a loss.
 
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