Suarez News (#ONTOPIC)

[luvgonzo]

I'm actually reaching the point of no return with him. However, I will be incredibly pissed off if he goes to Arsenal and I will want them to lose as much as I want Man Utd and Chelsea to now!

I'm only speculating there maybe nothing in this not celebrating thing I don't know and didn't see it but it sounds bad.

 

[luvgonzo]

What a load of bullshit! So the BBC (once again!) produce a piece that contains no quotes from anybody but claims to know what Suarez wants to do. In the best traditions - codswallop!!!!

The reason people are pissed off at the moment is his actions on the pitch, I haven't seen it but as I said it sounds bad.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

I'm only speculating there maybe nothing in this not celebrating thing I don't know and didn't see it but it sounds bad.

Not seen it myself, nor is there any quotes etc in the BBC article. Just fed up of hearing about it now

 

[Magic Ted]

I ****ing wont if he goes to a PL club, it would be worse than Torres going. This man has dragged the club through the mud and we've at times depending on your opinion backed him when we shouldn't have, he owes this club and the fans and going to another PL club would show beyond a doubt that he is a man without any honour.

You could argue that he gave us an extra season. We knew he'd move, many accepted before the Summer that he was gone, but I admit it would hurt if he stayed in England, I just hope the Madrid come in with a £40m bid, just take it. But, at the end of the day Suarez is good enough to play at the highest level, you can't have some one in the top ten players in the world not playing in the CL. If he ends up at Arsenal, I'll be channelling the majority of the blame on FSG, and I'd seriously start to question them and doubt them.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

You could argue that he gave us an extra season. We knew he'd move, many accepted before the Summer that he was gone, but I admit it would hurt if he stayed in England, I just hope the Madrid come in with a £40m bid, just take it. But, at the end of the day Suarez is good enough to play at the highest level, you can't have some one in the top ten players in the world not playing in the CL. If he ends up at Arsenal, I'll be channelling the majority of the blame on FSG, and I'd seriously start to question them and doubt them.

When Suarez joined us he said he wanted to play for one of Barca or Real eventually so given the choice, Luis will go to Spain.

 

[luvgonzo]

You could argue that he gave us an extra season. We knew he'd move, many accepted before the Summer that he was gone, but I admit it would hurt if he stayed in England, I just hope the Madrid come in with a £40m bid, just take it. But, at the end of the day Suarez is good enough to play at the highest level, you can't have some one in the top ten players in the world not playing in the CL. If he ends up at Arsenal, I'll be channelling the majority of the blame on FSG, and I'd seriously start to question them and doubt them.

If he wants to go then the greedy ****er needs to put in a transfer request and the club need to state that we will only sell him to a club abroad.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

If he wants to go then the greedy ****er needs to put in a transfer request and the club need to state that we will only sell him to a club abroad.

Unless the club are in the wrong about the transfer clause

 

[DirtyFrank]

Yep, fair point.

In addition, I think the clause in the contract is ambigious - both parties (Suarez and his agent, and LFC) seem to have a different view on it which could get messy (court?).

Rory Smith ‏@RorySmithTimes
If there's a legal dispute between Liverpool and his people over the clause, then he has leverage to force a move.

As far as legal dispute goes, I doubt very much Liverpool would let it get that far.

What leverage? It's the same as now: either the clause says he can force a move at 40+M or he simply hears about all offers of that kind.

In fact I would suggest a protracted legal dispute would actually delay any outcome not speed it along.

And why on earth would we say yes to an offer ten million below what we've just said yes to? That's a stretchy Wum that. Not very good at all...

 

[Magic Ted]

If he wants to go then the greedy ****er needs to put in a transfer request and the club need to state that we will only sell him to a club abroad.

I do agree, and I'll admit that I've lost all respect for him about how he's gone about things, and in a way I feel extremely stupid for ever sticking up for him. But, if there is a release clause I'd seriously start to question FSG, and if there isn't one and they still sell to Arsenal, again, I'll seriously start to question them.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

What leverage? It's the same as now: either the clause says he can force a move at 40+M or he simply hears about all offers of that kind.

In fact I would suggest a protracted legal dispute would actually delay any outcome not speed it along.

And why on earth would we say yes to an offer ten million below what we've just said yes to? That's a stretchy Wum that. Not very good at all...

As someone offered £50m...? #confusedbythiscomment

 

[DirtyFrank]

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sorry I responded to two but only quoted one.

2nd bit was at DS and his "going to Real for 30M" Wum.

Make more sense now lol?

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

sorry I responded to two but only quoted one.

2nd bit was at DS and his "going to Real for 30M" Wum.

Make more sense now lol?

Yes


Did BR actually say something along these lines:

Rodgers last week said he considered Suarez to be at least as valuable as Edinson Cavani, another Uruguayan striker who recently joined Paris St-Germain for £55m.

 

[Dangerously Delicious]

Someone else said maybe he looked pissed today because he only got a few minutes on the pitch, I highly doubt it but it could be the case. The new Arsenal developments completely contradict this.

If he goes to Arsenal I won't be happy with the board and Rodgers for allowing that to happen, we shouldn't sell to the competition, especially not a player who can massively improve them. More than this though it will just confirm that Suarez is total scum, which was already evident as he's also a violent racist thug.

There's still one reason that keeps a part of me saying 'hope he stays' and that's when the ball's at his feet, as was on show again today, looks like it's going to be more of the same from him this season, wherever he is. If he stays I wouldn't call my attitude to him 'support' more tolerating a necessary evil.

Totally sick of it though now and hopefully it'll be at an end asap. Nope, of course it won't!

 

[Enricky.]

Yes


Did BR actually say something along these lines:

Pretty sure I remember him saying that, or something like that.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

Someone else said maybe he looked pissed today because he only got a few minutes on the pitch, I highly doubt it but it could be the case. The new Arsenal developments completely contradict this.

If he goes to Arsenal I won't be happy with the board and Rodgers for allowing that to happen, we shouldn't sell to the competition, especially not a player who can massively improve them. More than this though it will just confirm that Suarez is total scum, which was already evident as he's also a violent racist thug.

There's still one reason that keeps a part of me saying 'hope he stays' and that's when the ball's at his feet, as was on show again today, looks like it's going to be more of the same from him this season, wherever he is. If he stays I wouldn't call my attitude to him 'support' more tolerating a necessary evil.

Totally sick of it though now and hopefully it'll be at an end asap. Nope, of course it won't!

This! If we are going to allow a player to have a release clause (whether that is the case or not) then we should at least be adding to it to prevent said player from joining a rival., or even making the release clause a lot higher for joining a rival.

 

[Dangerously Delicious]

Hypothetical question.

If he stays would any of you still sing the Suarez song at a game??

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

Hypothetical question.

If he stays would any of you still sing the Suarez song at a game??

I think the crowd will let him know what they think at the first home game but then get behind him again. Fans are fickle and would soon love him once he starts scoring goals.

Personally, I think Real are interested but since their season doesn't start until after ours, they will late as long as possibly before making a move. This would see Suarez serving part of remaining ban before joining them and therefore missing less games for Real. This doesn't matter to Arsenal because they're in the same league, I think they are trying to get a jump on Real. Suarez will know if real are interested.

 

[Enricky.]

I think the crowd will let him know what they think at the first home game but then get behind him again. Fans are fickle and would soon love him once he starts scoring goals.

Agreed, sorta like how the Arsenal fans are saying he's a twat but he can be our twat, cause they want to win, they want to score goals. Much like we would be if he were to stay.

 

[Red_Pheonix]

What leverage? It's the same as now: either the clause says he can force a move at 40+M or he simply hears about all offers of that kind.

In fact I would suggest a protracted legal dispute would actually delay any outcome not speed it along.

And why on earth would we say yes to an offer ten million below what we've just said yes to? That's a stretchy Wum that. Not very good at all...

frank,

A legal fight between Suarez and LFC would do the player no good whatsoever. Our owners live in the most litigious state in the world. They operate in the most litigious sectors (media and finance) of the economy of that state. They have access to far more legal resources than Suarez and his agent. So even if the Suarez camp are right about the legal connotations of this clause, the transfer window will be well closed before any ruling could be achieved.

Add to that, LFC already know that they will not have Suarez's services for the majority of the first quarter of the season. LFC are under no time pressure whatsoever.

I can't see John Henry allowing Suarez to act like a big sulky puss in the same way that Torres did and I don't see him bending to the demands of the player unless it suits his/our financial position.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

frank,

A legal fight between Suarez and LFC would do the player no good whatsoever. Our owners live in the most litigious state in the world. They operate in the most litigious sectors (media and finance) of the economy of that state. They have access to far more legal resources than Suarez and his agent. So even if the Suarez camp are right about the legal connotations of this clause, the transfer window will be well closed before any ruling could be achieved.

Add to that, LFC already know that they will not have Suarez's services for the majority of the first quarter of the season. LFC are under no time pressure whatsoever.

I can't see John Henry allowing Suarez to act like a big sulky puss in the same way that Torres did and I don't see him bending to the demands of the player unless it suits his/our financial position.

Surely it wouldn't be a big drawn out case anyway? The wording of the clause is in black and white, the judge would just need to read it and hear each parties version. Four hours should be ample!