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Toby said:
http://www.lawcentreni.org/EoR/benefit-rates.html#INCOME SUPPORT / INCOME-BASED JSA

If you mean a quick trip to somewhere local and ****ty, then yes, but that's not a holiday.

There's no ****ing way you're going anywhere with dole payments like that.
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Actually toby my fat ****** neighbour is dole scum of the highest magnitude. She is just back from spain. This fat jeremy kyle viewer took a job as a cleaner and quit after half a shift because she is too good to be a cleaner.

Another neighbour has just acquired a new 13 plate ford mondeo because her daughter has one leg shorter than the other.

I have never been on benefits and have always worked, even while at uni and can barely afford the lifestyle these scummy ****s get through their direct choice to sit about doing **** all.
 
Kim Jong Il said:
Actually toby my fat ****** neighbour is dole scum of the highest magnitude. She is just back from spain. This fat jeremy kyle viewer took a job as a cleaner and quit after half a shift because she is too good to be a cleaner.

Another neighbour has just acquired a new 13 plate ford mondeo because her daughter has one leg shorter than the other.

I have never been on benefits and have always worked, even while at uni and can barely afford the lifestyle these scummy ****s get through their direct choice to sit about doing **** all.
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Is that the fat bird from the **** in a bucket story?

No really surprising to be honest. I'd be bumping the dole if ****s were running about ****ting in my mop bucket.
 
MD 20/20 said:
Is that the fat bird from the **** in a bucket story?

No really surprising to be honest. I'd be bumping the dole if ****s were running about ****ting in my mop bucket.
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That's the one md.

To clarify the benefit system does an important role but the too good for a certain type of work mentality does my tits in.
 
Kim Jong Il said:
Actually toby my fat ****** neighbour is dole scum of the highest magnitude. She is just back from spain. This fat jeremy kyle viewer took a job as a cleaner and quit after half a shift because she is too good to be a cleaner.

Another neighbour has just acquired a new 13 plate ford mondeo because her daughter has one leg shorter than the other.

I have never been on benefits and have always worked, even while at uni and can barely afford the lifestyle these scummy ****s get through their direct choice to sit about doing **** all.
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I honestly doubt that she's only getting the basic JSA + housing benefits.

I just posted the breakdown of the cash you're allowed when unemployed, and it definitely doesn't cover the cost of a holiday in Spain.

I went on holiday when I was on the dole, but only because I had 'other' money-making activities and I got my PPI money back. I'd always worked since being in England before that and paid my taxes, so I don't see it as a negative thing. I was honestly trying to find a real job + working at the same time (sort of).

Basically the conclusion to the benefit issue seems to be wiping out half the population of scotland, north of England and NI, don't think there would be too many complaints...
 
Toby said:
I honestly doubt that she's only getting the basic JSA + housing benefits.

I just posted the breakdown of the cash you're allowed when unemployed, and it definitely doesn't cover the cost of a holiday in Spain.

I went on holiday when I was on the dole, but only because I had 'other' money-making activities and I got my PPI money back. I'd always worked since being in England before that and paid my taxes, so I don't see it as a negative thing. I was honestly trying to find a real job + working at the same time (sort of).

Basically the conclusion to the benefit issue seems to be wiping out half the population of scotland, north of England and NI, don't think there would be too many complaints...
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I never said benefits was her only income. My issue is her claiming to be too good to be a cleaner. If you have contributed or intend to contribute then I have no problem with you claiming benefits. However my neighbour should be used as fuel in a dregs of society fired power station.
 
Kim Jong Il:5015089 said:
Toby said:
http://www.lawcentreni.org/EoR/benefit-rates.html#INCOME SUPPORT / INCOME-BASED JSA

If you mean a quick trip to somewhere local and ****ty, then yes, but that's not a holiday.

There's no ****ing way you're going anywhere with dole payments like that.
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Actually toby my fat ****** neighbour is dole scum of the highest magnitude. She is just back from spain. This fat jeremy kyle viewer took a job as a cleaner and quit after half a shift because she is too good to be a cleaner.

Another neighbour has just acquired a new 13 plate ford mondeo because her daughter has one leg shorter than the other.

I have never been on benefits and have always worked, even while at uni and can barely afford the lifestyle these scummy ****s get through their direct choice to sit about doing **** all.
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If they have a better lifestyle than you doesn't that make you the scum?
 
Kim Jong Il said:
That's the one md.

To clarify the benefit system does an important role but the too good for a certain type of work mentality does my tits in.
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****ting in mop buckets + dole scrounging go together so well.

It's a tell-tale sign.

Kim Jong Il said:
Apart from a double digit iq, webbed feet and a sexual attraction to any family member. Also I don't live in fife.
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<laugh>

So incredibly true.
 
VenomPD said:
Also Toby, I'd say that Dougie knows more about his neighbour than you FFS.

Hang about in Fife much do you?
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He definitely does, when did I claim to know anything about her?

I was just talking about the amount you're legally entitled to from the Government.
 
Toby said:
1- So why are you going on about MD's lifestyle then?
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um, I was leaving MD well alone until he aggressively commented on my lifestyle: "Your children will never have to live in a smaller house so your point is ****ing pointless."
Toby said:

2. Why should poor people deserve any more than the basics in life?
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They should be given every chance of acquiring more than the basics in life and the state should be responsible for top quality education and health systems which give them every chance.

Toby said:

Just because you knew a few dodgy people in Belfast doesn't mean every **** in the UK has designer shoes and Sky. The weekly JSA payments to someone on benefits is less than Sky costs for a month, who in the **** has Sky?
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Almost the entire road in my old neighbourhood https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=ne...SxFi96QjmKd7ILdOUA&cbp=12,323.66,,0,-4.3&z=16 which is the 5th most deprived district of the 586 in Northern Ireland, with 70.8% of kids entitled to free school dinners (parents on benefits) and only 40% of kids getting 5 good GCSEs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Lodge,_Belfast less Sky TV funded through benefits, more money in education?

Toby said:
As a society we should look towards putting everyone on a more even level, rather than let people get so rich that even their great-great grandchildren will be rich and won't have to work. I can't see why you've got so much hatred towards a small section of society, when they're not the cause of the financial crisis and are those that suffer the most already.
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I agree about great-grandchildren being rich, I've advocated almost 100% inheritance tax over a certain amount (which almost everyone finds unpalatable), my logic being that there should be equality in opportunity, everyone should have the same chance to do what they want with their lives, whether that be take up a life in the arts, or academia, or sit around and watch tv - and if someone choose to get rich and succeeds then you congratulate them on their success. If the state grants privileges which make it easier for one person to get rich over another then fix that part of the state - if the state does not give one man privilege over another then those people who do get rich deserve their success.

I don't hate the working class, almost my entire family are working class and half of my friends are working class. I believe you come from a fairly middle class family having grown up in France (fair play, it's lovely there) yet you think I have formed my opinions from a privileged perch, when I've formed them from growing up dirt poor in a working class community where a sizable percentage of the population wouldn't change a single thing about themselves and are happy to take the path of least resistance in life. Some people don't put any effort into trying to attain equality (or better) for themselves.

Toby said:

But keep on avoiding as much tax as possible though, it really backs up what you believe in
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I pay every penny of tax I'm due to pay where I live and work (and it's quite a substantial bill) and I pay fully into the UK National Insurance system. I don't avoid tax - I only take it into consideration when deciding which job I should take and where to live - the same as I do when I decide not to live in London because of the property prices.
 
Kim Jong Il said:
I never said benefits was her only income. My issue is her claiming to be too good to be a cleaner. If you have contributed or intend to contribute then I have no problem with you claiming benefits. However my neighbour should be used as fuel in a dregs of society fired power station.
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Yep that's fair, if you're unqualified, lazy and incredibly stupid then you should be put down for the benefit of the species.

Instead the fat useless ****s just come and post on here <grr> <grr>
 
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