Mboyo

That's a good post Circa. it's hard getting the balance right between justifiable indignation and tolerance but you make some good points there.

 

Circa, that is one of the best posts I've read on these forums in a long time.

 

Illegitimate Labia

 

If you don't rate a skoda you don't rate a vw, Audi or Seat, as they are all made with the same parts so essentially the same cars with different cosmetic styling.

Toyota are also a very, very good car manufacturer, just as all the Jap manufacturers are.

 

Most sensible post on the subject yet.

 

Balanitis infected prepuce.

 

Limp dick

 

Plastic vicar.

 

Condylomata acuminata

 

Time for a truce?

 

Edit: Meant to say, that is a good post; stupid/appalling, it's both.

I am intolerant of many things, not least a lack of perspective, along with fair compassionate tolerance; hmm, be tolerant, I know what I mean . .

. . I find it strange that someone might desert the support of his club over this tried, punished and rehabilitated young man, after all I can recall some holding in esteem an individual who lived a life of thuggery, violence and drugs, who thought nothing of giving drugs (microdot) to 13yr old bairns. People can mellow with time, they can react to better influences, but they need an opportunity. I am not having a go at anyone, but I do fail to understand how a young, immature boy can be held up for eternal examination by his less than perfect peers. But I suppose the most puzzling argument posted was that a plus would be that his record would make his fee and wages lower; bizarre!

 

Buschke-Löwenstein tumour.

I'm guessing you've had one of those ones as its not exactly a household name to pull out the bag .

 

I suspect he might not be quite as rehabilitated as some might think - he spent a night in jail as recently as April, after refusing to show his papers to police and then insulting them.

He scored two goals the next day in a 2-1 win, though!

 

Good in him. That makes me like him even more.

 

You're missing the point...

Most 16 year olds have done something "wrong".

It could be stealing, it could be stabbing, it could be raping.

All of these have different degrees of severity but the point is they're all possibilities and without generalising too much you could argue that many factors come into play. You may have only nicked a bike in your youth but you also weren't in a African mafia gang in a Brussels ghetto at such a young age, you may have received a different set of morals and education from your parents.

You can't treat these things black and white, that's ****ing daft frankly. It's easy for you to be all judgemental and condemn this but you don't even know what went on in his life and his head back then, you don't know how he feels about it now.
Personally, I don't agree with those who say "rape is rape". A 30 year old raping a 14 year old is not the same thing as a 16 year old doing so. A rape under the influence of cocaine is not the same as a sober one. A woman raping a man is not the same as the other way round.


PS: when I say "you" It is a generic you.

 

Like Fez said, irrelevant of what type of crime was committed, I think it's very harsh to basically label someone for the rest of their lives when they were only teenagers when it happened. If people don't believe in rehabilitation or that a teenager can change once an adult then we might as well chop the head off of anyone that has committed a crime.

Of course, if it was my daughter I'd struggle to say this but then again my judgement and opinion would be biased and therefore flawed.

He has received punishment which is the first step in my opinion so I think it would be harsh to condemn him for eternity.


However, he does seem to be a little bit of a handful (both on and off the pitch) like Balotelli.


I reckon for £5million he'll be a steal and worth double or more if he has a good season with us and carries on his progress with national team. So if he's too much trouble, let's make some profit and offload him.

 

I think the type of crime is very relevant indeed.