Beefy's Corner - The Off-Topic Chat Thread

Now veal is interesting, as modern veal farming is nowhere near the cruelty that is imagined by most people, plus the calves that are raised for veal are 99% of the time male cows born from dairy farming cows. They have no purpose to the dairy farmers so are slaughtered at birth if they cannot be sold for veal. Veal may be contraversial but at least it isn't wasteful.

 

The toffs point may be true for some but I think there are other reasons for many. I don't have a particularly strong opinion either way but my old sixth form tutor made the point that fox hunting is designed for pleasure - if you really want to hunt foxes with dogs you could get lurchers (I think that was the breed he suggested, it's been a few years now) and they'll catch the fox within a few hundred yards. Fox hunters use slower dogs with so the fox is subjected to a long, slow, terrifying chase

 

I think the cruelty side of it is exaggerated though. Is the fox really "terrified"? He's running away from a predator, this is just nature. Does he have the mental capacity to be terrified? What about all the poor defensless (free-range) chickens that are killed by foxes, shouldn't we consider their fear and kill all the foxes?

 

In the natural world, foxes are on the top of their particular part of the food chain, and have no natural predators. Unlike hares or deer, who are naturally chased by predators, foxes normally just keep well away from larger carnivores and apart from the prey, everyone is happy. Since wolves were killed off in this country, foxes have neither rivals or predators, so fox hunting is something that foxes have no evolutionary capability of coping with.

Fox hunting is cruel, unnecessary, and sick.

 

Just been told I look like James Dean, I'll take that!

 

I say just set them loose and see what happens. It'll be sort of like cows in India.

 

If my cat has the capacity to be terrified, and she does, then a fox probably does too. Chickens are far dumber.

 

Giancarlo Fisichella pretty much broke down in tears in the middle of an interview on Eurosport, saying the result is meaningless and he doesn't know whether to continue. Poor guy

 

Totally agree . And further to Oli bn1 point about cruelty to other animals , how many wrongs make a right ?

 

Difficult for most of them I imagine , poor buggers .

 

Yeah thanks. I didn't waste too much time racking my brain as to when Lallana got a hatrick!!

 

FLT, whatever you do, do not look at the Wanyama thread...

 

Another nasty crash at Le Mans. Fingers crossed all okay.

 

Driver out and okay. Phew.

 

Yeah looked nasty, at a fast area of the track too.

 

My lifes over

 

What's up man?

 

Why would that be BD..?

 

Gf's old man phone me asking when am I going to make his daughter a honest women. I was tempted to say nothing can make her honest but stopped myself.

 

And why does that mean your life is over..? I have to admit I did expect a more tragic answer than you gave. Or am I missing something here..?