International weeks = silly season. Of couse he'd consider a move to Real but that's hardly news. We can't even offer Uefa nevermind CL footy. If we want top talent then want to keep said talent we have to perform better as a club. Until we do that we have to accept that like every other team who can't offer European footy we will lose good players to those who can. Will he leave? Quite possibly. Does he owe us some loyalty? Well I think so but then it matters not what us fans think. Can we sign better? Probably not but then we said that when the ladyboy ****ed off...never say never. I hope he stays obviously but if he's determined to go at least we are in a great bargaining position for once.
wasn't we in a good bargaining position when we sold Alonso to Real, its just the club didn't want the (alleged?) players they offered us at the time? was a while ago, so not sure if it was true at the time or just a load of ****e.
I am quite please if real do come in and we get the full amount for him... i'd be delighted. we are seriously better off without the drama.
Not so sure that there'll be any bargaining to do, if he decides he's off, as there's been rumours of a buyout clause in his contract since the day he signed it, in the region of £35-40m. I think the noises coming from him & his agent all point to someone having whispered in his ear - blaming the press is ridiculous & totally transparent
Agree with this. I obviously don't want to see us lose a player of Suarez's quality but it won't be the end of the world if he left, I actually think we perform better as a team without him.
Maybe True BB, but then again its just a rumour about the Buy out clause and it would be slightly strange for the club to be so vocal recently in saying "he's not for sale; he signed a new contract" if that contract took the decision out of the clubs hands if offered enough cash? It tells me (unless a ridiculous bluff) that the club may sell, but only at their price. Suppose we'll soon see.
yup, no player is begger than the club. fowler got injured, owen moved, gerrard got old, carragher retired, hyppia moved, alonso move... dalglish retired once as i recall the club goes on trying to improve. I sneakily think that if coutinho plays a central role and continues to perform at a high level then the team is better. Its better as rodgers plays a proper no 9 up top as well but suarez doesn't need to leave to make that happen. 30 goals is a big loss to any side though.... its why OPTIONS are required and why rafa got the sack, he had torres..... and n'gog.... need to learn form that rodgers, you did the same for 6 months... not good.
Surely ignoring any buy out clause is just standard practice for the club in such situations - the clause usually has to be kept confidential anyway or the club basically loses all power in negotiations. I remember Blackburn throwing a fit once details of Jones' buyout clause emerged cos it meant Utd didn't have to go above £16m and Jones could just refuse to talk to any other clubs. And just look at Ba - as soon as Pardew admitted he had a buyout clause he was gone in the next summer window for a pittance. It would be the same for Liverpool (if the clause exists) - if they admit there's a £40m buyout clause then all clubs will just offer £40m and take all Liverpool's power away. If they deny the clause exists they can try to engineer a bidding war, or try to discourage other clubs from bidding by making out the club don't have to sell and it would take silly money to prise him away.
Hmmm, not sure Swarbs. Thats fine with a happy player who'll keep his mouth shut. If the player wants away then that seems pointless as his agent will tell every interested club anyway. Might be technically breaking the confidentiality of the existing contract but you'd have to prove it. Fairly sure we'd take a less bullish tact: Bigging Luis up etc rather than "not for sale" .the existence of a buy out clause means he's always on the market. Also, I don't see why FSG would allow that clause in at renegotiation time. He still had 3 years left on old contract & a track record for forcing moves on when he wanted. Just can't see us saying, "yeah on paper we've extended it to 2 more years, paid you more money but basically signed control away from us if you fancy leaving." Where in that mythical deal is there advantage to FSG? What possible reason would they have to take away any power to make cash off their investment. I could see it if it had been part of the original deal to bring him here but all the rumours tried to suggest it was added in the renegotiation. Again, he's made it clear he wants off so we'll soon see.
Suarez just confirmed throug his agent that he is happy at Liverpool and he is not going to leave during this transfer market.
Luis Suarez's agent tells Sky Sports News the striker "is happy at Liverpool and has no plans to leave this summer". But he is still the image for the day's news on the BBC and "Suarez keen on Real Madrid move" is the second bullet point. BBC
This is true, although you assume that the player would be willing to undermine the club in such a way. Given the respect Suarez has for Liverpool and their fans, I don't think he'd take that tactic. Similar to Ronaldo at Utd - he wanted away for a few years and he and his agent could have pulled all sorts of nasty **** like leaking stuff to the media, refusing to play, playing badly etc. But he had enough respect for the club to allow them to negotiate a massive fee rather than force his way out for a lower amount. I don't think Suarez dislikes Liverpool enough to leak details of the clause at this stage. If he truly wants away, and assuming there is a clause, I reckon he will try to let Liverpool negotiate freely first and get as much money as they can out of Real, Barca or whoever. It's only if Liverpool refuse to negotiate at all, or try to force him to join a club he doesn't want to, that his agent would leak details of the clause. IIRC that was what happened with Jones - he only wanted to join Utd but Liverpool and Arsenal were willing to pay more. Venky's insisted he join the club with the highest offer, so his agent leaked details of the clause to Utd and Utd got him. That assumes he would have been willing to sign a new contract without the clause, and assuming that the original deal didn't have some sort of clause in it anyway. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if it was a contingent clause based on either qualifying for the CL or being very close to qualifying. Rodgers admitted before he signed the contract that a lot of clubs were interested in signing him, and Suarez himself wasn't all that happy at the time, so the new contract could have been a "give us another season to get close to the CL and if we don't then you can leave for £40m plus". Of course it's all just speculation, and like you say we'll see what happens this summer, but none of it is really beyond the realms of possibility in football.
All the agent's quote means is that he's currently got no intention of handing in a transfer request. The direct quotes from Suarez saying "It would be very difficult to say no to Real Madrid." remain news worthy comments.
Sorry mate, but I think that's naïve in the extreme. Suarez respect for Liverpool, won't stop his agent telling the 'right people' of the details of his current contract should he be asked by the likes of Madrid or Juventus.
I have no specific knowledge of Suarez or his agent, but I do have knowledge of how agents carry our their business, through a close friend. They're meat traders who look to maximise the return on their 'asset' i.e. their client.
