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City Agro said:
Well they made my life a misery and were absolutely hated by everyone I knew.
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So you loved Thatch but hate ELO!! I'm worried you must have suffered some kind of emotional abuse in your formative years. What else could account for it?
 
Craig in Nottingham said:
So you loved Thatch but hate ELO!! I'm worried you must have suffered some kind of emotional abuse in your formative years. What else could account for it?
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Never voted for the Thatch. Took the view then as now that they're all see you next tuesdays.

But all this 'victim' squealing 30 years after (specially by kids not even born at the time) does my tree in.

And to think we'll have to endure this all this angst & posturing again when President Blair snuffs it......
 
City Agro said:
Never voted for the Thatch. Took the view then as now that they're all see you next tuesdays.

But all this 'victim' squealing 30 years after (specially by kids not even born at the time) does my tree in.

And to think we'll have to endure this all this angst & posturing again when President Blair snuffs it......
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I feel the same way about the 'Hero Worshipers' who had no personal experience of Thatcher or the 80s but still feel informed enough to lecture those who did.
 
Craig in Nottingham said:
A lot of people are very busy trying to re-write history at the moment, I even heard Chris Patton on the radio describing her as "kind!" - I almost choked - Anyone who drew breath in the 80s knew that was the polar opposite of Thatcher.
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He's called Patten and he's the greatest prime minister this country never had.

And his daughter hot.
 
City Agro said:
I'm getting bored of her death already and media stoking the fires for the next week or so.

Entrenched opinions will not change. Just think it's a sad day for this country that the misbehaviour of some people will force alterations to the established protocol we have for these occasions.

We are British ffs, not some emotionally incontinent Latin banana republic.

"Don't like her funeral? Don't attend or watch it then" would be my advice to those who continue to feel hurt.
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I won't - and I don't want to have to pay for it either.
 
City Agro said:
It's what we do in this country and have done for decades at football. It's an established part of our culture.
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Apparently there was no silence for Callaghan or Heath either.

Happy Clapper said:
Bob Crow. A good example of why she needed to crush the unions. I'm surprised he can tweet tbh, I'd imagined his snout was in the trough most of the time.
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I always find that regardless of which side of a dispute I was on before I hear him speak, by the time he's finished I'm supporting the opponent.

Wombat Erik said:
Speaking of recipes, is anyone watching Masterchef? Robbie Brady's on there, cooking under the pseudonym 'Natalie' and pretending he's a part-time DJ
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WTF? I know it can't possibly be true, but I so hope it is when I watch it later.

J.B.Septum said:
I won't - and I don't want to have to pay for it either.
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I heard it's going to be an £8M policing bill for it. Obviously the Met Police are joining WYP in living in the past and are drafting in extra officers to prevent our high risk supporters saving another old woman's life.
 
the FA are thinking of having a minutes silence out of respect for the Iron Lady. <laugh>

cant see it being respected in Barnsley and other pit towns.
 
City Agro said:
Here you are Craig, the obit from the Telegraph. A succinct enough summary. Enjoy.

"For more than a decade Margaret Thatcher enjoyed almost unchallenged political mastery, winning three successive general elections. The policies she pursued with ferocious energy and unyielding will resulted in a transformation of Britain’s economic performance.
The resulting change was also political. But by discrediting socialism so thoroughly, she prompted in due course the adoption by the Labour Party of free market economics, and so, as she wryly confessed in later years, “helped to make it electable”.
As for the effects of the Thatcher phenomenon upon British society, these were both more ambiguous and more debatable. Her remark “there is no such thing as society” was wrenched altogether out of the context of the interview in which it was made, and made to seem to be an advocacy of naked individualism, when she was really calling for more personal responsibility. Yet, rightly or wrongly, the 1980s came to be seen as a time of social fragmentation whose consequences are still with us.
Margaret Thatcher was the only British prime minister to leave behind a set of ideas about the role of the state which other leaders and nations strove to copy and apply. Monetarism, privatisation, deregulation, small government, lower taxes and free trade — all these features of the modern globalised economy were crucially promoted as a result of the policy prescriptions she employed to reverse Britain’s economic decline.
Above all, in America and in Eastern Europe she was regarded, alongside her friend Ronald Reagan, as one of the two great architects of the West’s victory in the Cold War. Of modern British prime ministers, only Margaret Thatcher’s girlhood hero, Winston Churchill, acquired a higher international reputation."
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And the country is paying for those policies NOW. The communist system would of fallen anyway as it was a flawed system.All policies that have made the bankers and Shareholders rich and the people who really earn the money poorer. This country is fast approaching been the poor man of the industrial world. The class system is NOT dead, it is growing and we are fast emulating Brazil where the super rich live in Penthouses and the super poor live in wooden shanty towns, in fact the only reason this country cannot be described as third world is the fact that our poor have not yet been put in wooden Shanty towns, but mark my words if the policies of Thatcher and her followers(this government) continue we will get there. Thatcher policies are Robin Hood in reverse, rob the poor to feed the rich.
 
Tuckin said:
Anyway... Whatever your opinion of her, you must all agree that it would be a recipe for disaster?
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Agreed, Madejski is deluded if he thinks the Scousers will observe a minute's silence for her only a couple of days before the Hillsborough anniversary. It's likely to cause more trouble than its worth and I don't think the fires need stoking anymore. I'd rather hear about the football on Match of the Day, not some people observing or not observing a minute's silence.
 
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