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Great post mate. Agree with all of this.

Colback is no doubt a Newcastle fan but has been with us 10 years but is a clever lad and hasn't mouthed off about it. A young lad called liam noble did, after we released him and has burned all bridges behind him.

Lee Clark was the final straw for me and I didn't want Chopra but relented and he ****ed us over too.

I guess Graham is suffering the consequence of those two and that article didn't help exactly.

By the way, the Watford programme is an open publication so in essence, is a national programme and has gone totally open now via internet.

If Graham does comes, under all of this, then he deserves a chance and I am now happy to afford him that.

I think the papers have made more of it than was ever intended by Graham Cest and I reckon less than 10000 of those programmes were actually sold - maximum of 1% of which would have left the Watford area - journalists sensationalising??

As I've said (and you seem to be warminmg to a little!) I'll give him a chance until he (if he) ****s us over in the way that others have - you have to remember that Lee Clark and Michael Chopra spent large parts of their footballing lives at Newcastle after supporting them - whereas Graham simply supported them as a boy - glad you're warming to it!!
 
Point understood.

However, an increasing number of our fans are no longer prepaired to tolerate even the remotest scent of nufc within SAFC due to a direct result of negative experience, understandably so.

For your consideration. A well known quote from Einstein with which you are already familiar.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.


You go on like you are talking for the majority, you aren't. You are speaking for a very small minority.

To be fair, I would think he's talking for at least a significant enough portion of our fan base to cause disharmony.

I think that's the point he is trying to make and I am in total agreement with it.
 
I take it you were born in 1983 Safc83? I was drilling holes in the atlantic frontier when you were pissing in your diapers kidda. Who is speaking like the majority? I speak for myself and myself alone. Perhaps you failed to hear the boo's from the crowd last night?

I've seen enough in life to understand the implications of screwing about with your 'customer base'. Football is a sport that is founded upon passion, however it must be positive passion to have a positive influence.

Don't worry, if we sign Danny Graham, I won't be one of the fans booing at the stadium (Never was in the first place), I won't be there full stop.

100 people booing in a silent stadium sounds like a lot more than that - HTCP - afford him a chance until he does a disservice like Clark or Chopra - don't tar him with the same brush until he tars himself - I may have only been 8 in 1983 but I was a regular at Roker Park by that time!
 
If Graham does comes, under all of this, then he deserves a chance and I am now happy to afford him that.

Good for you mate, I'm pleased your willing to sit back and watch this as it all unfolds... I've had my 50 years worth and don't need to see anymore.

For the record, Danny Graham isn't signing for SAFC because he loves or has any desire to play for SAFC. Danny Graham is signing because he wants to return to the 'north east'.

Do you think Danny Graham will give two flying ****s about SAFC in 4 years time as his 2 million a year contract comes to its conclusion and Sunderland are in the championship? He'll be buying drinks for all his mates wearing a nufc top on the keyside man...

Perhaps he should take a pay cut and go and play for Gateshead?
 
100 people booing in a silent stadium sounds like a lot more than that - HTCP - afford him a chance until he does a disservice like Clark or Chopra - don't tar him with the same brush until he tars himself - I may have only been 8 in 1983 but I was a regular at Roker Park by that time!

Just to be clear, it's not me who is 'tarring' Danny Graham. I as an individual am not bothered about 'a mag' joining SAFC. My position is merely founded upon life experience, life experience that has learned by trial and error. Life experience that has come to understand that disharmony in the camp is the single most deadly affliction that any organisation, culture, work place or football club can possibly have.
 
O'Neill is battling to complete his protracted move for Graham before Thursday's deadline and will allow Wickham to join Swansea on loan for the remainder of the season.
Swansea are prepared to sell the former Watford striker after a fortnight of deliberations but are aware there could also be potential interest from Stoke City
O'Neill will allow Wickham, the England under-21 international, to join the Welsh club as part of the deal and is hopeful of a resolution today.
Wickham was an £8 million signing from Ipswich in June 2011 but he has only made two starts this season.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-ONeill-offers-Connor-Wickham-to-Swansea.html
 
O'Neill is battling to complete his protracted move for Graham before Thursday's deadline and will allow Wickham to join Swansea on loan for the remainder of the season.
Swansea are prepared to sell the former Watford striker after a fortnight of deliberations but are aware there could also be potential interest from Stoke City
O'Neill will allow Wickham, the England under-21 international, to join the Welsh club as part of the deal and is hopeful of a resolution today.
Wickham was an £8 million signing from Ipswich in June 2011 but he has only made two starts this season.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-ONeill-offers-Connor-Wickham-to-Swansea.html

Whahey let the party commence!
 
Half time. In not thrilled by his signing but I have to run with it.

I can't change it and I didn't make it but if the only alternative is to stop going to the sol then I won't be taking that.

I don't doubt Graham as a player just his commitment to up as a club and if he is willing to overcome this animosity towards him then he is a pretty gutsy lad and maybe deserves a chance.

On reflection, maybe he will be the one to put right the errors of Clark and Chopra?

I'm going to end up cheering the ****er on at Reading at this rate. Fickle footy fans eh? Lol:D
 
I take it you were born in 1983 Safc83? I was drilling holes in the atlantic frontier when you were pissing in your diapers kidda. Who is speaking like the majority? I speak for myself and myself alone. Perhaps you failed to hear the boo's from the crowd last night?

I've seen enough in life to understand the implications of screwing about with your 'customer base'. Football is a sport that is founded upon passion, however it must be positive passion to have a positive influence.

Don't worry, if we sign Danny Graham, I won't be one of the fans booing at the stadium (Never was in the first place), I won't be there full stop.

That line was unnecessary, pointless and means nothing.

I heard the boo's last night and my point remains it was a very small minority who done that, you can't please all of the people, all of the time. Also like MoN said "At the moment he is a Newcastle fan, playing for another club", if he comes and scores a goal in his first couple of games the boo's will quickly fade away.

As for not going to the games because of one signing, well that's just pathetic. Gone are the days of supporting your team I guess.
 
Half time. In not thrilled by his signing but I have to run with it.

I can't change it and I didn't make it but if the only alternative is to stop going to the sol then I won't be taking that.

I don't doubt Graham as a player just his commitment to up as a club and if he is willing to overcome this animosity towards him then he is a pretty gutsy lad and maybe deserves a chance.

On reflection, maybe he will be the one to put right the errors of Clark and Chopra?

I'm going to end up cheering the ****er on at Reading at this rate. Fickle footy fans eh? Lol:D

:laugh: All that booing last night! Wait till he scores his first (that is, if he does sign!) Fickle's the word!
 
Sunderland, along with almost universally odious QPR fans are the only ones who don't appreciate the way we play. I noticed that when any of your players tried to keep possession by passing the ball sideways or (god forbid!) back to the keeper he was booed. Try educating yourselves.

As for "Now **** off back to buggering sheep Taffy twat. "

You know what they say, we **** 'em you eat 'em. <ok>
 
Sunderland, along with almost universally odious QPR fans are the only ones who don't appreciate the way we play. I noticed that when any of your players tried to keep possession by passing the ball sideways or (god forbid!) back to the keeper he was booed. Try educating yourselves.

Educate? Why is your way better? Arrogant knob <laugh>

btw I was impressed with your passing in your period of dominance in the first half <ok> bit toothless yesterday tho!
 
Sunderland, along with almost universally odious QPR fans are the only ones who don't appreciate the way we play. I noticed that when any of your players tried to keep possession by passing the ball sideways or (god forbid!) back to the keeper he was booed. Try educating yourselves.

As for "Now **** off back to buggering sheep Taffy twat. "

You know what they say, we **** 'em you eat 'em. <ok>

Sheep are so last year...

Shetland Ponies and miniture chihuaua's are so the fashion these days.
 
Knackeredjack:4194487 said:
Sunderland, along with almost universally odious QPR fans are the only ones who don't appreciate the way we play. I noticed that when any of your players tried to keep possession by passing the ball sideways or (god forbid!) back to the keeper he was booed. Try educating yourselves.

As for "Now **** off back to buggering sheep Taffy twat. "

You know what they say, we **** 'em you eat 'em. <ok>

Is there any actual point to Wales and its inbred inhabitants?

I can't think of any that's all.

If the human body were the map of Britain, then Wales would be the annoying bits of ****e that cling desperately to the hairs on your arse after wiping.

They are merely work shy parasites, living on the backs their English masters.

As for eating sheep? Yuk.
 
I once saw the results of a large IQ test of the British people. Somehow, the Welsh came out with the same average IQ as the English. Upon closer inspection I noticed that it was sponsored by the "Mount Snowdon Liberals promoting free and unsupervised public access to internet connections campaign".
 
I dunno - I haven't been overly impressed with DG but I really don't think what he said was slagging us off... it was just a bit of banter that any Sunderland lad would have said of the Mags as a throw away comment. When did we all get so thin skinned?

Never been much of a fan of the tappy-lappy style of football that the Swans play - nut unless it's honed with an ability to transition into razor sharp penetration... that said we were were pants last night (and still no goals conceded). Sess looked a different class when he came on.