Beefy's corner- the place for off topic stuff

Anyone gonna be watching the F1 from Brazil tomorrow? Will it be Alonso or Vettel who takes the title?

 

How about a doctorate (is that what they call it) Isn't that what they suggest or have you got to have practical experience before pursuing the next level?

 

Congratulations, Joe. Have a good break and enjoy the longest holiday.

Chances are, that if you find a job, 2 weeks is about the longest break you will get for the next few decades.

 

Hatton v Senchenko.... I see this Senchenko fella has decided to wear a Man U shirt underneath his boxing robe,in front of Man city supporting Hatton,that's one way to wind your rival up

 

After what I've just done, which is an LL.B. (Bachelor of Laws), if I want to continue further down that path, I could take the LPC to get on the road to being a solicitor, take the Bar to get on the road to being a barrister, or an LL.M. (Master of Laws) to specialize in a certain area. The problem is I'm not particularly keen on any of those options at this moment in time.

So basically I'm looking for something that I might be keen on, and while I'm doing that, I'm doing charity work to improve my CV. The obvious problem there, of course, is that I'll eventually run out of money.

Then I'd damn well better find a job I enjoy!

 

Bye Hatton

 

I'll be watching - Vettel should win but I'm going to go for Alonso with Massa taking Vettel out!

 

The cost of doing an LPC or similar terrifies me

 

Yeah.

Also, having spoken to friends of mine who have gone on to do LPC/Bar, it sounds like it's a massive step up in workload. I don't know about you, but I thought 3rd year was more than enough work.

 

Well I'm only in second year so wouldn't know. Every single year though, I get told "you have it easy, wait until next year!" But that's yet to be true. Through secondary, especially year 11, "you better start working, Dan, or college will be a rude awakening!" Nope, still got by on bare minimum effort. Same for AS to A2, same from A2 to uni and so far, same from year 1 to year 2.

 

I'm in my 3rd year and it's ****ing brutal!

 

Haha yeah, I noticed that too. My third year was very different from the first two though. There was no more attending lectures as they were online only, so I got to watch them all from my bed, but the amount of work I had to do at home significantly increased. I only had 2 exams, but about 12 essays, and they also introduced these "workshop" things where we had to work in groups, so if you didn't prepare properly you were letting other people down. Also I found that my modules were generally more challenging.

What are you studying?

 

I never attend lectures anyway I can't pay attention in them, and all powerpoints go online so there's little point. Tutorials are where all the learning goes on - spend a couple of hours a week preparing for them, and they're an hour long each anyway. I take it you had those as well as workshops?

I much prefer essays to exams, anyway, particularly for Law. Being able to spend ages looking up cases is far preferable to having to make names up on the spot.

 

Yeah, we attended tutorials and workshops, and yeah essays are way better. Have you done any mooting? I ****ing hate mooting.

 

What makes the workshops different?

I have, kind of. Did it in college but it was a joke, ungraded so we just wrote what we were going to say about 10 minutes before actually doing it. Had a graded moot (the word is still so ****ing ridiculous) in uni, but we got to pick our partners and opponents so the four of us just planned counter-arguments together to make everyone come out looking good. Sadly, I suck dick at any kind of important speaking, so I naturally went bright red and started speaking as fast as I could. Passed, which is the important thing. But yeah mooting can **** itself.

 

Basically, tutorials were just for going over the material in the previous lecture for an hour, and any extra reading that we were instructed to do in the lecture, and then in the workshops we would have to work together on some sort of hypothetical scenario which had been posted online earlier in the week. I thought it was sort of pointless.

I mooted in second and third year, and they were both graded. In second year, I had a partner to prepare with, but we didn't know who the opposing pair would be. In third year we went one on one. Both times, my opponents totally misunderstood the situation and embarrassed themselves. I have the same problem with talking too fast, and I also got told off for having my hands in my pockets, but yeah I passed. Never again though. It makes me so nervous.

 

Oh okay, that does sound pretty odd. I'm fairly sure all three years of my course follow the tutorials + lectures routine, or, at least I hope so.

That sounds bad, surely the quality of the moot as a whole drops if the structure falls apart because of one person? Or does it just make you look good because you're not a ******? I was actually told my body language was good (about the only good thing about my presentation), as I stood with one arm behind my back with my other arm arranging my notes in front of me. I was told this is how barristers in court act, and asked if it was deliberate - it wasn't.

 

I guess it made me look good. The first time, my opponents literally started arguing for the wrong side, and my partner and I were trying hard to keep straight faces. The second time, my opponent was asked some questions by the "judge" and couldn't answer any of them. She got extremely flustered and kept apologizing. I felt so bad for her, because the one on one mooting was really nerve-racking.

 

Ugh I can imagine... but anything is nerve-racking (or is it nerve-wracking? Hmm) for me.

Might as well ask, as our year 3 is heavily option based - have you got any subjects you recommend I seek out/avoid? Anything on the same level as Administrative or Constitutional Law I'll be sure to stay well clear of.

 

Yeah, some of it is what I say to Jehovah's Witnesses when they have come calling in the past. I never say go away to them because it's fun to have the conversation. If they overtly bring up religion I sometimes change tack and say there's an excellent case for the Druids.

BTW, congratulations Joe.