Beefy's corner- the place for off topic stuff

A trivial matter like irrefutable evidence would never convince someone whose blinkers are brainwashed in place.

 

I'm talking about creationists though, not Christians. Creationists do literally believe in all that stuff, and therefore refute a lot of science. They'd hate to hear that mankind isn't unique or special.

 

If all creatures were created as they are and not the result of evolution, why would they have a similar skeleton with various design changes i.e. bats have wings based on hands, horses walk on one toe per foot etc.

 

To test our faith, obviously. Same reason God put the dinosaur skeletons there.

 

Have we got any creationists on our forum?

 

Sorry to change the subject but just had a shock on the Saints site. MARCHINHGIN WINS PRIZE!

Thought they meant Barry!

Marchunin A Prize
Says Marc

 

Congrats on your graduation Joe - and i mean that. Glad that it stopped raining for the big day too. It didnt stop for me this afternoon when i was working on my drive - got bloody soaked.

 

Thanks! I promise the thousands of pounds I borrowed will be repaid in due course.

 

Well done, Jo. It's such a relief when it is behind you, though you will realise in the future how good your college/uni days were in retrospect.

 

Fray Brontos would be a great name for a company, but I think that'd probably be passing off. Unfortunately we'll never know what dinosaurs tasted like, but did you know that someone has recently been lucky/crazy enough to eat mammoth meat? It had been preserved in ice for thousands of years, and so was safe for consumption.

 

Thats the downside i suppose - but at least you have your degree and they cant take that from you. When you get to be a top barrister it wont take you long to pay the loan off !

 

Right after a few more seasons of Football Manager.

 

I love Strictly Come Dancing.

 

How dare they vote the lovely Lewis like that.

 

Looked fair to me.

It baffles me how Lisa Riley is that good....

 

The problem with the Bible is that it was written before a lot of fundamental things were tested and could be proven. Since then, the overwhelming evidence suggests otherwise. The Earth and Sky [and hence the Universe] was not created in 6 days. It was the best understanding the ancient scribes could come up with. The Sun, and not the Earth, is at the centre of the Solar System, although the night sky behaves as if it was, to the naked eye, and uneducated viewer. When the Sun rises and sets each day, would it be so different if it revolved around the Earth..?

The mistake that believers make is to cling to a fallacy once the truth is staring one in the face. I was born into a Catholic family and had a childhood hearing my Mum and Dad talk about not taking the Lord's name in vain. All the family are lapsed. We've moved on. We don't need to support of the Mother Church because we can think for ourselves. Once upon a time people were largely uneducated, or had no educational resource. Now they are and do. Religion has served its purpose in giving the masses something to give them purpose.

When I look back on biblical history, I hope that the kind, gentle and far seeing chap was indeed around about 2000 years ago. His environment would have been torn apart by unrest and the people around him would have been fairly unsophisticated and uneducated. They would have seen no relief from their misery until he came along and gave them a sense of peace, guidance and a logical way of thought. If I believe in anything, it's the see-able and touchable, so I don't think there was anything supernatural about this bloke [hey, maybe he was a she anyway]. The Bible called him Jesus and he almost certainly did exist, but there it ends for me. The peculiar thing is that the core things Jesus [and other prophets] is said to have spoken to people about are just as relevant today as they were then. It is religion that has ultimately twisted the fundamentals and prevented the truth from being presented to the people, like they have done so many well documented times in the past.

And so we come full circle. According to the Bible, aside from the kind chap, everything has been sorted, there's nothing we need discover. And science is pretty good at telling us what the truth is... until we discover it was wrong as well, when a new truth is stumbled across. If Curiosity discovers a molecule of methane in the Martian dirt then the truth will have to be written again. Nothing is set in stone.

 

Written like a true Secular Humanist, I agree with every word!

 

Congrats Joe on your graduation....Whats the next step for you?

 

Good question. If you think of a good answer, let me know.