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I reckon Brucie has put in a ridiculous offer of contributing £1500 a week towards Givens wages and was told not to be a daft lad.

That's providing Villa have come in and offered 1.5 million for JC.

Daft bid meets daft bid.

'We can play this game as long you can Mr Lambert' said Mr Bruce.

I do love that strategy.
 
Just seen this regarding stockdale. Hope it's true as he was supposed to be very highly thought of. I know he had a difficult loan at Ipswich last season but that was probably more down to those in front of him I'd guess.

Amos was highly thought of and all. No doubt one mistake by Stockdale and the meffs we have as fans will be on his back.
 
Just seen this regarding stockdale. Hope it's true as he was supposed to be very highly thought of. I know he had a difficult loan at Ipswich last season but that was probably more down to those in front of him I'd guess.

Amos was highly thought of and all. No doubt one mistake by Stockdale and the meffs we have as fans will be on his back.

Even if we signed Casillas or Buffon some of our meffs would still get on their backs after they made a mistake.
Which they would, all keepers do.


As I have said before Amos is a decent keeper and will improve with time. I honestly wouldn't be concerned should he remain our number one.

Who'd be a keeper anyway?


Mentalists, every last one of ''em.
 
Again, you're exaggerating and putting words in peoples mouths.

Where?

And yes, "pissypants" is what you could call belittling and juvenile name calling, but it's been only been used in retaliation to you (I'll try not to sound to primary school here) starting it off in the first place.

Where?

As moderators don't get to choose their successors, I doubt any agreement/disagreement with one will progress any sort of campaign of mine either way <ok>

This is the last time I'm going to allow myself to get sucked in - I've said my piece.

Great, as what you've written hasn't really added any value. Get back to me on the points above, yeah?

Points in bold for the hard of reading.
 
if it was just one mistake there wouldnt be a problem or even two, anybody thinking amos has only made one mistake have clearly only been to 1 game...

I know Amos hasn't made just one mistake and I have been to more than one game.

Bit condescending for you DJ?

I could also say anyone who wants to constantly criticise his performances clearly has very little understanding of football and in particular goalkeeping.

It's all about opinions.
 
well you know he has made more then one mistake so you werent the target audience of my point...
plenty of people saying any new keeper would get jumped on after 1 mistake simply isnt true, amos is causing concern for a number of shaky performances not just one.
not many people are even saying hes a bad keeper, just that promotion teams are built on a solid base and if we are serious about promotion we need somebody more reliable and safe, and i agree.
 
I haven't helped him at all. He seems to be of the opinion that we should all think Amos is great. I disagree, and therefore I'm in the wrong, despite our manager clearly looking for a new keeper? Hardly.

I particularly like our moderators use of the word 'Pissypants' is that not 'belittling' and juvenile name calling? Thanks for your input though, no really. If you support a moderator, one day you might get to be one <ok>

I said pissypants because you were being a pissypants making sarcastic posts about everything I say, going down the boring 'no one lets me have an opinion' route rather than actually debating. It's ironic that you try to attribute me with forcing opinions on you, when it's you that's having a fit every time I give my opinion and explain it.
 
The 36 year-old earns more than £60,000 a week at and has over three-and-a-half years left on his contract, following his £3 million move from Manchester City in the summer of last year.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...sign-out-of-favour-goalkeeper-Shay-Given.html
It would have been one he'll of a signing and if it's true, it pretty much confirms that Bruce thinks that none of our keepers are good enough.

Given is paying the price for Guzan having a good season. But its just not Given who sits on the bench. Villa sit Darren Bent on the bench (when fit) and they wonder why they are in the bottom 3. Villa are a club in a mess who look like they are going down. Paul Lambert to join the SACK race before Jan, maybe ?

That would have been a Bobby Dazzler.
Still a chance after Jan then..
Nice cheeky punt by Brucey.

Interesting and certainly a Brucie bonus if it had happened.


Who wouldn't be more confident of promotion with a keeper of Given's stature and experience in the team? Go for it Brucie!

I think that goes without saying. But maybe a club with PL relegation worries will take him in Jan now.

Does he still play for Ireland?

He did until after the euros play for ROI.. Now retired from International football.

Bruce could have seen Jakupvic as a decent reserve keeper.
A back-up for lesser cup games and more importantly he is our keeper that can't be recalled.
Short term fix??
Everone can see we need an experienced keeper to help the defence out, give them confidence.
Amos is a good decent keeper but its a hard position to come out on loan. Every mistake as keeper is magnified X 100.
Given's out of favour for a reason though - he's been ****e lately. A shadow of the 'keeper he was at Newcastle. If you think the Amos 'errors' are bad, think back to Given at the Euros, they were some proper examples of poor goalkeeping. Just shows that no amount of 'experience' cuts out errors, and sometimes it can have the opposite effect and increase errors.

Two interesting but different view points on our GK situation. I think SB has looked at what we have IF Ben Amos was to get injured. Hence wednesdays developments.

Groans....He may make errors, he'd still be a damned sight better than Amos. Do keep up ISTPLT.

Shay Given IMO is still in the top 10 GK playing in the UK and most of europe. ffs. get a grip folks. Lambert must have issues with Given.

So if Bruce signed Given along with Fraizer Campbell in January (two premiership players), city fans would be unhappy?
UNBELIEVABLE

The later yes. I shall never change my views on Campbell. FFS, there were some city fans @ Birmingham wanting us to re-sign Marlon King ffs. Now that is UNBELIEVEABLE.


I certain think in the championship he would be an excellent keeper to have. His experience would also help the back 3 or 4 whichever system we would be playing.

SHAY WOULD BE THE BEST BY FAR IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP JOHN. Now that is a GIVEN..!! sorry lol.

I reckon Brucie has put in a ridiculous offer of contributing £1500 a week towards Givens wages and was told not to be a daft lad.
That's providing Villa have come in and offered 1.5 million for JC.
Daft bid meets daft bid.
'We can play this game as long you can Mr Lambert' said Mr Bruce.

Very true. Lol.


Amos was highly thought of and all. No doubt one mistake by Stockdale and the meffs we have as fans will be on his back.

Oh without a doubt. Yes Amos has made mistake that have cost us goals. But Amos is yet to cost us a game which sadly his critic on here and elsewhere forget.
 
I said pissypants because you were being a pissypants making sarcastic posts about everything I say, going down the boring 'no one lets me have an opinion' route rather than actually debating. It's ironic that you try to attribute me with forcing opinions on you, when it's you that's having a fit every time I give my opinion and explain it.

Inappropriate use of the word 'fit', I know people with Epilepsy, using the word 'fit' as in having a 'fit' in a sentence is in very poor taste and pretty rank to be honest. You used the word 'Pissypants' because it's a juvenile word to use, if the cap fits. I made a sarcastic reference about Given not being good enough, but I didn't reference your name directly in the quote, did I? So, that perhaps could have been generalised. The fact you have taken it personally suggests you need to be a little less sensitive <ok>.

I did quote you in the 'Do keep up' thread, as the fact we've looked at, or been linked with 4 keepers this week, suggests that SB is not convinced by Amos either. I wish Amos well, I really do, I hope he goes on to achieve full international honours - he needs more experience at a club with nothing at risk, like promotion. That's it.
 
Inappropriate use of the word 'fit', I know people with Epilepsy, using the word 'fit' as in having a 'fit' in a sentence is in very poor taste and pretty rank to be honest. You used the word 'Pissypants' because it's a juvenile word to use, if the cap fits. I made a sarcastic reference about Given not being good enough, but I didn't reference your name directly in the quote, did I? So, that perhaps could have been generalised. The fact you have taken it personally suggests you need to be a little less sensitive <ok>.

That's your pissiest paragraph yet. Going down the PC route now...
 
Tickler I pointed out he's already cost us 2 games to you numerous times before and you choose to ignre it. Blackpool and Cardiff.

You are a baboon. With brain damage.
 
That's your pissiest paragraph yet. Going down the PC route now...

The response of a complete and utter cretin - well done.<ok> if it wasn't how I felt, I wouldn't have put it would I?. It's got nothing to do with 'PC' route, it's about showing respect, and it's the way I was brought up.
 
I like the posts of Glennos and the moddy think you two need to calm down a bit though. My opinion is that Amos is OK but the vibes I'm getting without actually knowing is that Jakupovic is the issue, not good enough for us? Stockdale is much better than either than them, great signing UTT
 
I like the posts of Glennos and the moddy think you two need to calm down a bit though. My opinion is that Amos is OK but the vibes I'm getting without actually knowing is that Jakupovic is the issue, not good enough for us? Stockdale is much better than either than them, great signing UTT

Have we signed Stockdale now?