I'm not so sure he'd get into half the top teams. See, this is where your delusion forces you to part company with us normal fans. We'll all openly admit that it was a superb goal, but to suggest that his was the only superb goal that has ever or will ever be scored in the EPL is delusion to a degree that you Mousers seem to excel at. Oh, and by the way, the correct grammar is "could have" not "could of." I point that out to you for your own education. Use it how you will. Some points of order, here. Firstly, I don't think we can rightly be called your "rivals" since we are fighting for a top 4 finish. Secondly, why would we have any cause to feel bitter, envious or jealous, when we have the likes of Bale and Dembele in our squad? Whilst I do not believe that Suarez is world class, I do think he is a very good player, and I wouldn't mind him in our squad. He'd have to wait his time on our bench, but I have no doubt that he would, eventually, get his chance.
Suarez has a lot of ability and he can pose a lot of danger to other sides, but he also has a number of obvious problems and I don't think that he's being correctly utilised at the moment, either. His stroppy, aggressive, surly attitude can't be good for the team and he seems to often get distracted by spats with opposition players. I thought that he'd have been able to build up a very potent pairing with Andy Carroll, playing in behind him and given the freedom to roam, but successive managers don't seem to have fancied that. They seem to have all the traits to complement each other particularly well, especially in a similar system to the one that we used under Redknapp, but perhaps that wouldn't suit the other players available at Liverpool.
Had to chuckle, listening to Talk5hite, briefly, in the car, about an hour ago. Gough and Cundy (standing in for Adrian Durham) ran their usual "off his head" spot, and today they voted Roy Rodgers for the prize, for claiming that Suarez was like Messi. Gough, who is usually extremely pro-'Pool, was especially ripping the piss. Deservedly so, in my view.
Let's see what happens if any of the biggest teams in Europe come in. This is a dig at you personally and not Liverpool fans in general - how can you claim to know what a player is thinking? He signed a contract to get more money, quite rightly of course, and not because he cares about the fans. No suupporter in the country can be 100% confident that any one of their players won't leave during the transfer windoow You also mentioned that you and virtually every other Liverpool forum meber has HIAG on your ignore list. If that's the case how do you know what he's posting?
They claim to put me on "ignore" and yet they come on to my thread to see how we Spurs fans are debating the issues surrounding 'Pool and Roy Rodgers. They threaten to "ignore" me because they cannot ban me from my own board (even though that is exactly what they would do, if they had the chance). It frustrates them that this thread so cruelly exposes each and every one of their delusions. How many times have I implored each and every Mouser not to "shoot the messenger"? It isn't my fault that 'Pool has been on a downward spiral for 6 or 7 years, and it certainly isn't my fault that most Mousers seem unable to accept that their club is no longer a force in English football. Ignoring me will not alter that fact.
I'm just intrigued by your teachings. Like another false prophet Harold Camping, you are not easy to simply ignore you just have to find out the latest ramblings. I will give it to you, you are 'interesting'
Saurez is not fit enough to lace messi's boots,he might be their "messi",but nowhere near the real thing,just goes to show how far down they have gone.
This is possibly one of the most hilarious comments I have ever read on here (no surprise its from a Mouser), Suarez is a good player and an even better diver and over reactor (his antics to get Collocini sent off are recent evidence) but I can think of many current PL players with more than enough ability to have scored that goal. If Suarez was a genuinely world class footballer he wouldnt be playing for Liverpoo, the fact that bigger clubs havent taken him is probably to do with all the extra baggage that comes with him. Of course, the Mousers idolise him because these days they have very few good players to get excited about and the fact that he is a racist and a cheat strangely doesnt seem to bother the average Mouser. Saying Suarez would get into every top team across Europe is quite comical, he wouldnt get in the top 4 or 5 PL sides and certainly not Real Madrid or Barcelona amongst many others.
On ability alone i would say he wouldn't get into Manchester United, Citys or Chelseas starting 11, including his personality and the baggage that comes with him he would'nt get into a lot of other teams aswel.
I think that shows the quality those sides have right now. Reckon he'd get on for Chelsea ahead of Torres, arguably. Different type of player of course so it'd be the manager's discretion. He'd surely get on or come off the bench for City - he's as good as Balotelli certainly, and they both have 'baggage' don't they! He might get on the wing for Barca, or be an often used sub. But they've so many fantastic options. Same with Madrid. Otherwise he'd get on to pretty much every team world wide, which isn't bad going. Well, maybe not teams in Ghana.
Yeah fair comment, he does have loads of tallent, he just doesn't seem to understand or doesn't care how his actions make him look like a twat. Same as balotelli who i don't rate very highly at all, not sure why Mancini insists on playing him.
I know that you find this sort of thing tricky, so you might want to try thinking about the Spurs side that beat you 4-0.
Nice wum attempt. But we both know that you'd take any player from our first XI, if you had the chance. Indeed, didn't you try to sign Siggy and Dempsey? And Siggy starts each game on our bench! Jesus! We've got one of the best goalkeepers in the world, and he cannot even get into our first XI! Little wonder that you Mousers look at our squad with such envy.
How many titles or trophies have the great Spurs, or even Arsenal for that matter, a team allegedly more 'relevant' than LFC now, won in the last 8 years or even further back? How many trophies won since the turn of the Millenium or even since the Prem began? The only team that will ever get anywhere near as successful in the future as we have been, or even have the riht to be compared with our club in terms of success, is the Mancs, which is why I have a hate-filled respect for them. This brings me to my next point: Other Liverpool fans ask me a lot; "why do you hate Spurs"? (Spurs are an utter irrelevance to most LFC fans truth be told for obvious reasons). My answer is, I don't hate Spurs, I hate their fans because their club have achieved nothing in our great sport compared to other teams. Nothing recent beyond an odd cup win and getting in the CL ****ing once (wow and you got all the the way to the quarters, big deal - we always got to the quarters we were angry if we only got to the quarters!) You won't find me ripping on any Manc or Arsenal boards because they have earned the right to rip Liverpool's recent blip. What they and their clubs have achieved is to be respected, maybe even admired. They have something to shout about and something of value, real concrete like, to back up their words. However, even when those two teams started achieving their trophies and began to takeover Liverpool, they and their fans still respected what Liverpool had done and achieved before them and displayed some level of humility about their recent success, realising that they had only just arrived as "the best team in the country" and they didn't know how long it would last until they may have returned from whence they came. Spurs, compared to these other teams, have achieved nothing really. Your claim to fame is that you have came 4th twice and finished above Liverpool 3 times. Thats it. Yet you carry on as some huge club who, like Liverpool all through 2000-2010, were bona fide Top 4 candidates, odds on to finish top 4. Even this hasn't been the case, as both times you came top 4, it was expected Arsenal, Chelsea, Utd and City would finish above you. If your club had achieved the amount your bragging and talking would suggest I would respect you and your club and wouldn't be on your boards shutting you up. You are johnny come latelys, who aren't, as several people within the game have said, most recently Eduardo, a 'Big' and respected European team who is expected to be in the CL every season and who all the best players in Europe would be expected sign for. The truth of the matter is you are a medium sized club toying with becoming a big club but just haven't quite got the resources to take the final step and at the same time don't have the history, reputation or pedigree (like Liverpool do) to compensate for this and get you over the line. If I was a player thinking about my future club, wanting to play CL every year for the next 10 seasons, Spurs wouldn't be a club I'd automatically think off, and thats the truth of the matter that you all hate and can't face which is why you kid yourselves so much. Liverpool here have a luxury, because of our past and all this romanticism about our club, and the wondrous Anfield, and You'll Never Walk Alone etc etc, which, lets face it, is a load of bullshit that only people/players outside of the UK fall for, but I ain't complaining because its mean we sign players like Sahin and Suarez who, in our current plight, we have no right to be able to attract, especially over clubs currently doing better on the pitch (like Spurs and Arsenal) at the moment. You don't have any of this bullshit and reputation etc behind you. People still are more likely to think in five years time you'll be back in mid-table as opposed to top 4 certs. The truth is it takes a hell of a lot of time and continued success to get that reputation among people in football whether that be players, staff, or fans. It is going to be a long time of you outshining us until people see Spurs in the same bracket as Liverpool in size or bigger than us. Yet you lot act as if that is already the case and have done since the second you came above is 2010. Its nowhere near enough yet and in the grand scheme of things you've achieved and proved very little so far. You have no humility surrounding you recent 'success' or rise up the table unlike the Arsenal and Utd fans had. They knew in a few years time, things could go back to how they were before their success. You lot take it for granted already though you have never done any of it before and act so arrogant as if the last 3 seasons will repeat itself forevermore, and it won't IMO. I can take it from the likes of Utd, Arsenal and even the Chavs. There big clubs with the recent trophies to back it up. But all Spurs have is one CL appearance and the "Finishing above Liverpool 2010-2012" trophy. and if your going to bring up the 'history' card then: 1) I am incredibly proud of our history and will never apologise for shouting about it as we earned and deserved every last one of those trophies, just as I'm sure you are proud of getting into the CL, and 2) Since 2000, off the top of my head we've one 13 cups since 2000. 2000 is not history. We won the biggest of them all in 2005. Thats only 7 years ago. We won the FA Cup in 2006, only 6 years ago, and we were in another, or SEVENTH CL final in 2007. Thats just 5 years ago, and we even won a mickey mouse cup just last year. Its still something, and we had to win it despite it being a ****e cup and I've had Gooners even say they'd love to win it just to start winning something again. So until your medium sized club actually starts winning something, or at least bloody gets into the CL a few more times, and earns the right on merit to be referred to as a big club, I don't think Liverpool fans anywhere should be listening to your lot about who is "deluded" and which set of supporters need a reality check, and we most definitely do not need supporters of a club who've no idea what its like to support a team that wins their league or have seen their team win multiple European Cups. The funny thing is, that Spurs fans acting the superior and being insufferable prematurely, before you've proven anything yet, could all fall apart pretty quickly as Spurs and Liverpool are both in a precarious spot right now, and in regards to the long term, both clubs are pretty evenly poised. No-one knows what way it will turn out for the two clubs but Spurs fans in true "Mind The Gap" fashion seem to shouting off that the future is bright for them and they've already won the marathon, whereas Liverpool are doomed and already lost. But as I have just suggested, a few player departures (Alonso,Torres, Modric, VDV - highlight this perfectly), who keeps their best players, decent money spent or not spent, and/or their new Manager turning out to be a bad choice (this looks like it could easily be either AVB or Rodger's so far - neither have impressed yet), it really is impossible to say right here, right now, for certain, which club will be superior in 3-5 year time. You lot and can see a bright future for Spurs and we can see an equally bright future for Liverpool. If nothing else it will be interesting to see where both clubs go in the next 5 years. I personally think we'll of overtaken you again, and be the better team which is sort of normality being resumed, as for the vast majority of time our two clubs have been around, ours has been the vastly superior. We still have our reputation to trade on and this season will see our revenues increased and back to the levels we had when we played in the CL every year thanks to our new sponsorship deals etc. (why as a club were valued more than most other clubs in the league). I suppose what I'm trying to say is we'll start taking note of your opinions on our club when he have actually won something, or even played in the CL more than once. Big club? Don't make me laugh!
Can we also have an end to this Liverpool in the 70s and 80s please. We have won a **** tonne of cups since 1990. Every one of them bar the biggest, but I'm happy with number 5 and the final again in 2007. Players like Carra and Gerrard, although they miss the big one and I'm sure that hurts, they have every other Players winning medal there is. What player wouldn't want that? Were in double figures post 1990 which is when were meant to have stopped winning things. So can we have an end to this bullshit of us being **** since 1990 and not winning anything since then as it does a massive disservice to our players from that time and our Managers who were very successful but seem to never get credit for it. The real fact is that in the 90s we won the league, the FA Cup and the league Cup - More than Spurs incidently. In the noughties we won 2 FA Cups, 2 league cups, 1 European Cup, 1 Uefa Cup, and 2 European Super Cups (also league runners up twice), but yeh, thats not much is it recently though? We haven't won **** all since the 80s like. Besides Utd, who, sadly, are the best. Who else has won more trophies than us since 1990? PS It ain't Spurs. We are always manage to keep picking up trophies even when were apparently meant to be **** since 1990. Well if thats ****, I wish we were even ****ter and won more!
