So we fired Arry for this.

[The Mighty Thor]

Some of you are being too impatient,WBA drew 2-2 at the lane last season with Arry established so I'm not too disappointed with today's result. They had a good win last week so were buoyed up by that and our new boss needs time to get going and to settle. I was out all day and haven't seen the match but the report stated that many positives came out of it for us so I'll watch it and see. You will change your mind when we beat Norwich.

 

[No Kane No Gain]

Too simplistic IMO. Confident players don't make mistakes like that. Lennon gave the penalty away A) Because he was tired. B) He was out of his comfort zone,

Chelsea know how to play with intelligence, something United and City also have which the other teams don't.

Chelsea created far more openings but it's difficult to compare as you were away and we were at home.

Yes Ba scored a screamer but it was woeful defending. Unlike Gera's vs Liverpool where you just have to hold your hands up and say there's nothing they could do. Ba was able to be back to goal, touch and turn in the box with no challenge from a Spurs player.

Vertonghen from what I hear us excellent but so long as you have G*llas in that back line you are always going to concede goals.

You are not creating enough clear cut chances and the fitness side of your game is being overlooked. It's nothing to worry about yet but may well be soon

Or was it C) because he slipped just before Cabaye made his move and he's never been any good at defending anyway?

Ba was able to turn in the box because he was Walker's man and he'd failed to clear the ball putting himself miles away from Ba. Plus it really doesn't take a proffessional footballer long to turn. The only way Gallas could've closed him down faster would be to sprint at him which would've made it easy for Ba to go past him, plus because of the ridiculous handball rule he'd have had to sprint at him with both arms tucked tightly behind his back incase ba shot, which he did. It wasn't the best defending you'll see but it was far from woeful and 9/10 times it would have been enough. Walker made the real error but you're never short of an excuse to have a go at someone ex-Chelsea at our club.

 

[notsosmartspur]

Very well said Yid, quite impressive actually, it would seem you, like me, have seen the increasing amount of sly digs from the poster that was oh so sorry a month ago...you're a mod mate, remind him you have the power to **** him off out of it again.

 

[Spurm]

I can't believe some of what I'm reading here:
1 - doubting manager after 2 games. Are we now Chelsea?
2 - high line doesn't work. Swansea?
3 - formation doesn't work. Swansea?
4 - terrible start. We are 1 point worse than corresponding fixtures last year.

The system CAN work but the players need to adapt. Some will adapt quickly, some won't. Some won't adapt at all. Let AVB discover what does and doesn't work. Per-season is all well and good but it's in the pressure of actual games that he will learn the most about our players.

 

[O.Spurcat]

Some of you are being too impatient,WBA drew 2-2 at the lane last season with Arry established so I'm not too disappointed with today's result. They had a good win last week so were buoyed up by that and our new boss needs time to get going and to settle. I was out all day and haven't seen the match but the report stated that many positives came out of it for us so I'll watch it and see. You will change your mind when we beat Norwich.

I think you're mistaken here as we beat WBA 1-0 at thg Lane last season.

 

[The Mighty Thor]

Ok Spurcat,I'll look again,maybe I had the wrong year or team...sorry.

 

[The Mighty Thor]

I was looking at April 2011 which was 2-2,quite a few draws between us though. So it was the year before...right Spurcat.

 

[Ghoddle10]

Playing 4-2-3-1 at home.

Defoe up top playing as the lone striker.

Rarely creating clear cut chances.

How long do we have to watch this crap until avb shows us why we sacked arry.

OR for the people that rate avb and believe in his methods, how long do you believe it will take before things click into place?

Just to say, this isn't a "sack avb" thread as I fully expect avb to be here for two seasons unless he really screws up BUT I don't believe in his methods so for many fans he has a hell of a job in convincing us he is an improvement on arry redknapp.

For some reason I find it hard to relate to the guy, he doesn't have much charisma or that humour that gives managers a bond with the fans, I just don't feel he is a spurs manager or someone that can inspire the players.

One aspect which concerns me most, is the lack of creating chances, as we're a counter attacking team but avb wants us to play a high line, so how can he turn is into a team which takes control of a game & breaks teams down.

He can't achieve that over night, nor can he allow us to have crap results/performances while he trys to make changes, so how do fans believe the season will unfold with avb, going by what they have seen so far.

Well said Boss - but the blame for me primarily lies at ENIC's door ATM. May change my views as the season progresses, of course.

We need another striker, a keeper and a mid, have ENIC got the ambition, have they got the cash?

 

[Zingy]

You will beat Norwich and everything will be rosie.

Not 'Arry's dog Rosie.

 

[Ghoddle10]

You will beat Norwich and everything will be rosie.

Not 'Arry's dog Rosie.

Thanks for the optimism Zingy, and like the joke

But I'm afraid I can't share it, ENIC have put their new manager under unnecessary pressure by once again faffing around in the transfer market and letting us down badly.

I'm far from confident AVB will ride the ensuing storms as well as Hrry could with his decades of experience and mates in the media.

IF we beat Norwich we'll be 3 points off where should be at this stage, draw and we've slipped too far behind to have any realistic hope of CL, IMHO.

If I was to predict ATM, I'd say 9th/11th for us, but I live in hope that ENIC will do something positive soon.

 

[District Line]

Thanks for the optimism Zingy, and like the joke

But I'm afraid I can't share it, ENIC have put their new manager under unnecessary pressure by once again faffing around in the transfer market and letting us down badly.

I'm far from confident AVB will ride the ensuing storms as well as Hrry could with his decades of experience and mates in the media.

IF we beat Norwich we'll be 3 points off where should be at this stage, draw and we've slipped too far behind to have any realistic hope of CL, IMHO.

If I was to predict ATM, I'd say 9th/11th for us, but I live in hope that ENIC will do something positive soon.

You've far too much quality to finish 9th-11th IMO but lack the quality to finish top 6 at the moment.

Whilst ENIC are perhaps at fault for leaving transfer dealings to the last minute you camt legislate for poor tactics used in matches

 

[PowerSpurs]

Thanks for the optimism Zingy, and like the joke

But I'm afraid I can't share it, ENIC have put their new manager under unnecessary pressure by once again faffing around in the transfer market and letting us down badly.

I'm far from confident AVB will ride the ensuing storms as well as Hrry could with his decades of experience and mates in the media.

IF we beat Norwich we'll be 3 points off where should be at this stage, draw and we've slipped too far behind to have any realistic hope of CL, IMHO.

If I was to predict ATM, I'd say 9th/11th for us, but I live in hope that ENIC will do something positive soon.

I don't share your views on this GH10, but how do you know that ENIC has faffed around. For all anyone knows they have bid 50% more than AVB thinks is the value
for dozens of players and been turned down.

 

[No Kane No Gain]

Very well said Yid, quite impressive actually, it would seem you, like me, have seen the increasing amount of sly digs from the poster that was oh so sorry a month ago...you're a mod mate, remind him you have the power to **** him off out of it again.

Mods are like the UN mate, even if he starts killing everyone who disagrees with him all I can do is sanction a strongly worded letter.

Anyway, whilst he might be feeding off the negativity of some users here, the fact is they agree with him. The more offensive and blatant wums are removed from the board but frankly I think there's enough intelligent posters here to counter his arguments. He'll be quiet as a mouse when our team gets sorted out.

Oh and obviously I meant Ben Arfa not Cabaye

 

[Zingy]

Thanks for the optimism Zingy, and like the joke

But I'm afraid I can't share it, ENIC have put their new manager under unnecessary pressure by once again faffing around in the transfer market and letting us down badly.

I'm far from confident AVB will ride the ensuing storms as well as Hrry could with his decades of experience and mates in the media.

IF we beat Norwich we'll be 3 points off where should be at this stage, draw and we've slipped too far behind to have any realistic hope of CL, IMHO.

If I was to predict ATM, I'd say 9th/11th for us, but I live in hope that ENIC will do something positive soon.

Nah way, personally I think you will finish above us. And I don't see us finishing that low. Judging by the start of last season, things turned out very different for most teams. Wolves won their first 2, you lost your first 2, Arsenal's first 2 months, we had a decent start...all those mentioned went on to do the opposite to what they started.

By the way, talking of Rosie... is that dog in the Sky Sports fantasy football adds with 'Arry the actual dog itself? A funny touch if it is.

 

[No Kane No Gain]

Nah way, personally I think you will finish above us. And I don't see us finishing that low. Judging by the start of last season, things turned out very different for most teams. Wolves won their first 2, you lost your first 2, Arsenal's first 2 months, we had a decent start...all those mentioned went on to do the opposite to what they started.

By the way, talking of Rosie... is that dog in the Sky Sports fantasy football adds with 'Arry the actual dog itself? A funny touch if it is.

Nah, he calls the dog something else. Rosie's dead

 

[District Line]

Or was it C) because he slipped just before Cabaye made his move and he's never been any good at defending anyway?

Ba was able to turn in the box because he was Walker's man and he'd failed to clear the ball putting himself miles away from Ba. Plus it really doesn't take a proffessional footballer long to turn. The only way Gallas could've closed him down faster would be to sprint at him which would've made it easy for Ba to go past him, plus because of the ridiculous handball rule he'd have had to sprint at him with both arms tucked tightly behind his back incase ba shot, which he did. It wasn't the best defending you'll see but it was far from woeful and 9/10 times it would have been enough. Walker made the real error but you're never short of an excuse to have a go at someone ex-Chelsea at our club.

Hence why I said out of his comfort zone. Lennon is more of a winger than right sided midfielder in my view. Unlike Bale who can fulfill both roles aptly. Walker made the error yes but from that position the situation should still have been recoverable.

I wasn't having a go I was just being critical. Who he has played for is of no concern to me. He's also ex-Arsenal So I'm not quite sure what you are implying here YV

Very well said Yid, quite impressive actually, it would seem you, like me, have seen the increasing amount of sly digs from the poster that was oh so sorry a month ago...you're a mod mate, remind him you have the power to **** him off out of it again.

Sly digs? I don't see what is wrong about critical re: a poor piece of defending.

If you disagree why not say so or engage in debate like YV is rather than accusatory towards anybody else that disagrees with you.

 

[O.Spurcat]

The dog in the advert is Buster.

 

[No Kane No Gain]

Hence why I said out of his comfort zone. Lennon is more of a winger than right sided midfielder in my view. Unlike Bale who can fulfill both roles aptly. Walker made the error yes but from that position the situation should still have been recoverable.

I wasn't having a go I was just being critical. Who he has played for is of no concern to me. He's also ex-Arsenal So I'm not quite sure what you are implying here YV.

As I said, it was because he slipped just before and he's never been a great defender. Talking about him being tired and lacking confidence was just rehashing two of your boring digs at AVB, rather than focusing on VDV and Lennon who's utter mess of an attempt at defending was the problem and not the symptomn of anything AVB's done.

The Gallas thing is nothing to do with me implying anything, I straight up told you. G*llas as you refer to him is ex-Chelsea and now plays for Spurs, you don't like him so use every opportunity to have a dig at him even when other players are far more culpable, as proven with continued criticism of Gallas for Newcastle's first goal whilst only now admitting that it was Walker's error. Just like with AVB you twist and exaggerate the bits that suit you ignoring anything that doesn't fit your agenda.

 

[Spurlock]

Very well said Yid, quite impressive actually, it would seem you, like me, have seen the increasing amount of sly digs from the poster that was oh so sorry a month ago...you're a mod mate, remind him you have the power to **** him off out of it again.

A few have pointed and noticed this little manner from DL. What DL must understand is that we are not a weak bunch on here.

He spent a very long time creating nothing but negative article upon article about Spurs on his board. Then one day he decided to make an apology and get back on here and now behave like you actually care about the issues on Spurs and have a positive outlook...does not sit right with me wether it is on a forum or in the big world.

 

[Ghoddle10]

I don't share your views on this GH10, but how do you know that ENIC has faffed around. For all anyone knows they have bid 50% more than AVB thinks is the value
for dozens of players and been turned down.

Fair comments PS, I don't know that for sure so you're right on that, it's my opinion and might be wrong.

But all the indications are that Loris and Ade were available weeks ago for the right money. Just having them two start in the last two games would almost certainly be putting a new complexion on the situation

Anyway, I'll stand by my overall criticism of ENIC, and here I have stats to back it up.

One Carling Cup in 11.5 years, our worst trophy haul for over 60 years,

Yes they have done good things, but to me we won't be one of the top clubs in England while they're in charge. By that I mean a team that wins two trophies plus per decade, and is in contention for the title/CL by April at least twice a decade.

When I look at how ambitious owners have transformed Chelsea and City it makes me mad to see our 'prudent efforts'.