Anita Deal close?

[Albert's Chip Shop]

http://www.nufcblog.com/2012/08/10/llambias-on-continent-trying-to-tie-up-vurnon-anita-deal/

The Evening Chronicle is reporting today that Newcastle have indeed held new talks with Vurnon Anita’s new agent Mino Raiola, but the Dutch International has been told he will not be one of the club’s top earners, if he elects to join Newcastle United.



Vurnon Anita – Newcastle in talks with Ajax and agent

It seems that the new news on Anita is that his wages could become a difficult hurdle for Newcastle, and of course we know that Ajax have already offered him an improved deal to stay in Holland.

Vurnon has been told basically that his wages will be reconsidered after six months, after he has had a chance to impress at Newcastle, and that seems to us very fair, because Newcastle will no longer pay out huge wages for a player who has not proved himself at Newcastle, like we used to do under Freddy Shepherd.

Newcastle are true to their word too, because Cheick Tiote, Fabricio Coloccini and Tim Krul have all received long term improved contracts at Newcastle, after becoming some of the club’s very best players. Newcastle definitely pay for performance, and there’s nothing wrong with that, and most sane companies do exactly that.

If Anita elects to go elsewhere for bigger wages then that’s fine too, because we don’t want players coming to Newcastle just for the money.

It seems that Derek Llambias and secretary Lee Charnley are in talks on the continent to get Vurnon Anita to Newcastle, and there’s a decent possibility that Gregory van der Wiel could also be part of the deal.

But it’s been clear this summer that Newcastle will not relax their tight transfer policy, even though the club are in good financial shape at the moment, which cannot be said for the vast majority of Premier League clubs, and they still refuse to pay over the odds.

There’s a chance that Newcastle could get both Anita and van der Weil through the door, but it could still take some time before we know whether Newcastle have been successful in their efforts – we’ll keep out fingers crossed.

 

[Darth Plagueis]

I hope we get Anita and a CB in, in time.

We need additions! PL starts next week, Europa League soon after.

 

[Darth Gogledd]

Sounds promising

 

[Agent Bruce]

But it’s been clear this summer that Newcastle will not relax their tight transfer policy, even though the club are in good financial shape at the moment, which cannot be said for the vast majority of Premier League clubs, and they still refuse to pay over the odds.

Only in good financial shape because of the policy, pay what we think the players worth, not what the players agent and his club think he's worth. They're only looking for profit.

 

[Rafa's Championship Party]

But it’s been clear this summer that Newcastle will not relax their tight transfer policy, even though the club are in good financial shape at the moment, which cannot be said for the vast majority of Premier League clubs, and they still refuse to pay over the odds.

Only in good financial shape because of the policy, pay what we think the players worth, not what the players agent and his club think he's worth. They're only looking for profit.

Always good to look for a profit, never know when the footballing version of the recession will happen love to see how clubs like Liverpool will cope with that.

 

[Albert's Chip Shop]

But it’s been clear this summer that Newcastle will not relax their tight transfer policy, even though the club are in good financial shape at the moment, which cannot be said for the vast majority of Premier League clubs, and they still refuse to pay over the odds.

Only in good financial shape because of the policy, pay what we think the players worth, not what the players agent and his club think he's worth. They're only looking for profit.

love the Avi

 

[Darth Plagueis]

Sorry, but I think paying a bit more than we want for players is a bit better than signing no one.

If the scouts feel a player will improve our team well, then I think we should stop being so tight if the player is worth it.

We NEED signings, simple as, and if we want to improve, we cannot just expect to keep on getting these cheap miracles.

Last season we could, but for where we want to be, I think we should be ready to spend a bit of cash.

We should be sensible, but we need to take risks.

 

[Rafa's Championship Party]

To be fair sometimes we should spend more, but if we spent £35 million on Carroll, £20 million on Henderson, £17 million on Downing and £15 million on Allen. Not to mention other teams business.

 

[Agent Bruce]

love the Avi

Just a little alteration to the original.

Sent you a message when you've got time to take a look.

 

[Randy712]

Sorry, but I think paying a bit more than we want for players is a bit better than signing no one.

If the scouts feel a player will improve our team well, then I think we should stop being so tight if the player is worth it.

We NEED signings, simple as, and if we want to improve, we cannot just expect to keep on getting these cheap miracles.

Last season we could, but for where we want to be, I think we should be ready to spend a bit of cash.

We should be sensible, but we need to take risks.

Id rather sign no-one if none of our targets aren't available. Remember when we sold Carroll, we for some reason tried to buy N'Zogbia for far more than what he's worth? Same as the final day last season - ridiculous fee for Brian Ruiz? No point, we didn't buy either time and have since succeeded expectations. Keep to the philosophy, it works.

 

[Darth Plagueis]

Id rather sign no-one if none of our targets aren't available. Remember when we sold Carroll, we for some reason tried to buy N'Zogbia for far more than what he's worth? Same as the final day last season - ridiculous fee for Brian Ruiz? No point, we didn't buy either time and have since succeeded expectations. Keep to the philosophy, it works.

I'm not saying sign silly or panic buy. But if we've found a player or players that we think can improve the team significantly, but can't get them for the amount we'd ideally like to, I don't think we should just give up.

Sometimes you just have to pay the cash.

If the players will improve the team and help our chances of success, then I think paying a bit extra than what we'd like to should be considered.

We get money for how much success we have, and by selling tickets which will be aided by how successful we are, which will be determined by the quality we have.

If we must pay a few million more, than why not?

If Ajax want to ask a silly price then fair enough, but from what I've read, they're only looking out for their best interests, and the prices that have been spoken of don't see too unreasonable.

Anita is a good defensive mid that can also play well at fullback. He gives you defensive and attacking quality, he has pace, skill and can play in our style.

Don't assume that I'm saying we should go from not getting our way to paying ridiculous fees like Liverpool.

But we need to realise that we can't always have things our way, and sometimes you just need to fork out the cash.

Some of the bids we've put in recently have been pathetic and insulting to other clubs. We'll end up going in for a player, then them just refusing to talk to us for putting in derisory bids.

 

[Randy712]

Fair point you make Tash, but i don't think out offers are too derisory. Just taking a couple of buys elsewhere, Podolski was signed for around £10m, and Cazorla for £13.5m. Now considering Lille wanted £9m for Debuchy, and the same figure asked for Anita, i think thats a bit too much. Theres quality elsewhere at a much better value.

What i also dont understand about us is we take years scouting a player, but don't figure out how much is he going to cost. Not having a dig at Carr et al, but isnt that supposedly part of the job?

 

[Marvo]

What i also dont understand about us is we take years scouting a player, but don't figure out how much is he going to cost. Not having a dig at Carr et al, but isnt that supposedly part of the job?

I don't think so. Maybe it's part of the job to make an estimate on how much the player is worth, but that's often a few million off what the actual cost would be.

 

[Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction]

Still not excited. He ****ing tiny!

 

[Munstertoon]

Sorry, but I think paying a bit more than we want for players is a bit better than signing no one.

If the scouts feel a player will improve our team well, then I think we should stop being so tight if the player is worth it.

We NEED signings, simple as, and if we want to improve, we cannot just expect to keep on getting these cheap miracles.

Last season we could, but for where we want to be, I think we should be ready to spend a bit of cash.

We should be sensible, but we need to take risks.

It's easy to talk about taking risks when it's not your own money you are risking, Tash lad.

Lille are looking for too much for a 27 year old full back, in part because they are still pissed off at being mugged by Ashley over Cabaye. As for Ajax, it may well be that a compromise can be done, as at present they are looking for too much for him, but they are not in as strong a financial position as Lille.

 

[Darth Plagueis]

It's easy to talk about taking risks when it's not your own money you are risking, Tash lad.

Lille are looking for too much for a 27 year old full back, in part because they are still pissed off at being mugged by Ashley over Cabaye. As for Ajax, it may well be that a compromise can be done, as at present they are looking for too much for him, but they are not in as strong a financial position as Lille.

I'm wasn't talking about Debuchy, I was talking about Anita. Lille were taking the piss in the end.

My main point is -

Anyone who says "If we can't get our targets, then we shouldn't buy anyone". It's not as simple as that this time. There's is no way in hell we can go into next season with the squad as it is.

It would be an even bigger risk just to hope we don't suffer bad luck with injuries again. We NEED more players. FACT.

Even though we could do with another striker, I wouldn't say it's too bad if we have our current strike force as it is, but another CB is essential.

Saylor is awesome, but we need to prepare for the worst with his record.

If he does get injured, then It's back to Willo and Colo first choice, and we all know Willo is good for a set of games, but long term he starts to get a bit wobbly.

And now we're in Europe with more and more games.

You say it's easy for me to talk about risks when it's not my money, but I think spending a bit more than we want to, this time, is far less a risk then spending nowt and hoping for a few more fringe players to have blinding seasons, and also hoping we don't have a nightmare with injuries.

We need to strengthen in certain areas.

 

[Randy712]

To be fair id rather strengthen up top rather than in defence. As much as i can see improvements are needed, we still have a very capable set of full-backs. Simmo/Perch/Raylor/Santon can cover both full-back spots well. With regards to centre half Colo/Willo/Saylor and Good should see us through till January. Remember, if players are required in particular during the season, at least we have January to rectify this. Up front is where i see a problem. If Ba or Cisse get injured, i don't see Ameobi being a capable starter despite being a decent impact sub.

Regardless, we'll see what happens come end of August!

 

[Warmir Pouchov]

Not interested in "a few million more" transfer policies and "a few more thousand" wage policies of the past. Better we stick to the valuations that have got us to this point. The tightness of the transfer policy has been an integral part of our success. The old policies were the road to rack and ruin. Yes he is making a profit at present but he is still owed a lot of money through both his and his predecessors mistakes.

I'm sure they will spend money and some of it will be on established players like the dutch lad, but it will be on our terms. I'm not saying he is greedy because we don't know the figures but I think the hierarchy have demonstrated we should have faith in their plans.

I'd like a left back in, a centre half and an non ACON striker ideally. Another midfielder is not a massive priority but maybe they see this lad playing left back which he can (although he was reportedly more successful when moved to midfield)

 

[nevfur]

I'm wasn't talking about Debuchy, I was talking about Anita. Lille were taking the piss in the end.

My main point is -

Anyone who says "If we can't get our targets, then we shouldn't buy anyone". It's not as simple as that this time. There's is no way in hell we can go into next season with the squad as it is.

It would be an even bigger risk just to hope we don't suffer bad luck with injuries again. We NEED more players. FACT.

Even though we could do with another striker, I wouldn't say it's too bad if we have our current strike force as it is, but another CB is essential.

Saylor is awesome, but we need to prepare for the worst with his record.

If he does get injured, then It's back to Willo and Colo first choice, and we all know Willo is good for a set of games, but long term he starts to get a bit wobbly.

And now we're in Europe with more and more games.

You say it's easy for me to talk about risks when it's not my money, but I think spending a bit more than we want to, this time, is far less a risk then spending nowt and hoping for a few more fringe players to have blinding seasons, and also hoping we don't have a nightmare with injuries.

We need to strengthen in certain areas.

To be fair id rather strengthen up top rather than in defence. As much as i can see improvements are needed, we still have a very capable set of full-backs. Simmo/Perch/Raylor/Santon can cover both full-back spots well. With regards to centre half Colo/Willo/Saylor and Good should see us through till January. Remember, if players are required in particular during the season, at least we have January to rectify this. Up front is where i see a problem. If Ba or Cisse get injured, i don't see Ameobi being a capable starter despite being a decent impact sub.

Regardless, we'll see what happens come end of August!

Dont want us to go silly like the old days but got to agree with Tash here. As for waiting till january you usually find prices are racked up even higher then and players even harder to come by. Need some quality added now. I would say CB FB CM and striker. Anita, Douglas, any one of Debuchy, Wiel or Pieters and a good young lower division or foreign striker although am in the camp who would jump at getting Carroll back.

 

[Darth Plagueis]

To be fair id rather strengthen up top rather than in defence. As much as i can see improvements are needed, we still have a very capable set of full-backs. Simmo/Perch/Raylor/Santon can cover both full-back spots well. With regards to centre half Colo/Willo/Saylor and Good should see us through till January. Remember, if players are required in particular during the season, at least we have January to rectify this. Up front is where i see a problem. If Ba or Cisse get injured, i don't see Ameobi being a capable starter despite being a decent impact sub.

Regardless, we'll see what happens come end of August!

Even though we could ideally do with another striker, improving the depth in our defense should be critical