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Tommytiger said:
How narrow minded are you? So if you looked at the 2. Bundesliga table, where would you finish? Because I highly doubt you have a better squad than Koln, Kaiserslautern, Hertha Berlin, Bochum, Cottbus or St Pauli. In fact, I know you don't. To be honest, neither do we. It's a strong league; granted, Koln and Kaiserslautern weren't in it last year, but it shows Proschwitz has the answer to our goal scoring problem and should do fine.

The Vardy argument is a non starter. I made a similar point about Hearn at Grimsby last year, the goal stays the same size at every level throughout the football pyramid, so if somebody is banging in 30 goals for a side, people are going to sit up and take notice. A lad that scored 40 odd goals for Altrincham (who play in the Blue Square North and finished 12th) has just signed for Gillingham. It happens a lot because people recognise talent when they see it. It seems like only yesterday that Grant Holt was a Forest reject, but he's gone on to become a PL goal scorer. How many Norwich fans groaned when they saw they'd signed some nobody from Shrewsbury? I bet they feel like a bunch of nitwits.
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Is this the five minute argument or the full half hour? your guy is great ...he is bound to score forty goals this season..no danger...now go and relax...your season is assured..
 
McLean was a crap version of Darius Vassell

While they work hard and play for the team

But they just arent good enough
 
Proud_Fox said:
McLean was a crap version of Darius Vassell

While they work hard and play for the team

But they just arent good enough
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Agreed, he's not good enough to be in the championship and he certainly wasn't worth £1.2m. Work rate is bullshit, i could run around for 90 minutes occasionally fluffing chances, but I wouldn't get in at Hull. Maybe Alloa or Annan Athletic...
 
Yeah but what people are forgetting is that if these pace men had an end product then they would be in the premiership.
 
leicester_ed said:
Yeah but what people are forgetting is that if these pace men had an end product then they would be in the premiership.
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But what is the point of having a fast attacking player if they can't pass or shot when they have the ball? I'd rather have a player with no pace than can finish, like Nugent. Ideally, you want someone with decent pace and finishing ability, like Marshall and, potentially, Beckford.
 
Lesta Gangsta said:
But what is the point of having a fast attacking player if they can't pass or shot when they have the ball? I'd rather have a player with no pace than can finish, like Nugent. Ideally, you want someone with decent pace and finishing ability, like Marshall and, potentially, Beckford.
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Nugent isn't slow?

Not compared with players like Fryatt.
 
Nugent has tried in the prem with Portsmouth and Burnley and pretty much failed. I dont think he will ever make it at premiership level but he is a top end striker at this level

I have said before if Lloyd Dyer had better end product he would be in the prem
 
Lesta Gangsta said:
But what is the point of having a fast attacking player if they can't pass or shot when they have the ball? I'd rather have a player with no pace than can finish, like Nugent. Ideally, you want someone with decent pace and finishing ability, like Marshall and, potentially, Beckford.
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The point is that the pace can get them into great positions. Pace men in the championship will always be frustrating as if they had end product they would be in the premiership.
 
leicester_ed said:
The point is that the pace can get them into great positions. Pace men in the championship will always be frustrating as if they had end product they would be in the premiership.
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You look at some of the best players at this level over the years

Rickie Lambert, Andy Carroll, Mark Noble, Kevin Nolan, Peter Whittingham, Grant Holt, Wes Hoolahan, Jay Rodriguez, Danny Graham to name a few

They wasnt exactly fast
 
^ yes. Thats the point. They have the ability but not the pace. Others have pace but not the ability. If they have both then they are in the premier league.
 
leicester_ed said:
The point is that the pace can get them into great positions. Pace men in the championship will always be frustrating as if they had end product they would be in the premiership.
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Yes, get into good positions...and then give to away or shoot off target. Skillful players will always make space for themselves, even if they haven't got pace.
 
I dont think you understand my point. My point is that every team needs pace in it somewhere. Pace players with end product are in the premiership as thats a complete player.
 
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