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Just fancied hearing people's opinions on this..

Now i know several wealthy people from the NE, so is it as all doom and gloom for the area as this makes out/




The British equivalent of the American Dream simply does not exist for the youngsters in the poorest parts of the UK such as Middlesbrough, the Nominet Trust has warned.

New data from a project funded by the social investor shows that their chances of employment or attending a red brick university are extremely low, compared to their counterparts in richer areas.

The data, which forms part of a project by the Centre for Crime and Justice Studies launching next month, reveals that young people from Middlesbrough are 10 times more likely to be unemployed as those from wealthy Wokingham.

Compared to the average, those from Middlesbrough are almost three times as likely to be unemployed. Educational opportunities also look bleak, with only 1% of young people from Kingston upon Hull going to a red brick university compared to 34% of those from Wimbledon.

With over a million young people currently unemployed, Nominet Trust said it wants to use the data to highlight the diversity of their experiences and opportunities.

The social investor also wants to encourage everyone working in the field, from policy makers to youth workers, to think about how to do things differently for all 7.4 million 16-24-year-olds in the UK and believes digital technology has a big role to play in changing the fortunes of young people.

With this in mind, the Trust is launching a £2 million investment programme to fund ideas for new ways of using digital technology to improve young people's economic and social participation. The first round of applications for the programme will be accepted from now until August 1.

Annika Small, Nominet Trust CEO, said: "Where you're born and grow up currently determines where you end up. We urgently need to address the fact that the current system is failing millions of young people. Digital technology gives us the tools to do things radically differently.

"Whether creating new forms of online skills exchange and reward, new connections that increase young people's access to resources and networks of support, or new ways of showcasing talents and experience to future employers, digital technology can broaden young people's horizons and improve their social and economic participation."
 
I imagine for some the future is bleak but as for the American dream, I would hazard a guess that the poorest in Britain are better off than the poorest in the USA.

Doesn't strike me as the country to be if you have **** all.
 
Billy Death said:
I imagine for some the future is bleak but as for the American dream, I would hazard a guess that the poorest in Britain are better off than the poorest in the USA.

Doesn't strike me as the country to be if you have **** all.
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In a nutshell kidda. In the US you can have a wonderful life if you have the talent and the brains to succeed but if you have no talent and your educational ability is less than average you're ****ed. If you cant afford the best health care you're ****ed and if you cant afford to send your kids to college they are ****ed too.

That's not the kind of society I ever want to live in although Cameron and his Tory Inquisition are trying their hardest to get us that way here.
 
CestriaO'Neill said:
In a nutshell kidda. In the US you can have a wonderful life if you have the talent and the brains to succeed but if you have no talent and your educational ability is less than average you're ****ed. If you cant afford the best health care you're ****ed and if you cant afford to send your kids to college they are ****ed too.

That's not the kind of society I ever want to live in although Cameron and his Tory Inquisition are trying their hardest to get us that way here.
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Look what the government did for those poor souls in New Orleans when they were washed out of their homes, nowt.

Now imagine it had happened in Beverly Hills. Mmmmm.
 
The welfare system in the UK is something which we need to cherrish and support, but we do also need to weed out those who abuse it.
I'm also a great believer in the concept of proactive citizenship as a way of boosting the local economy and therefore protecting and creating employment, as well as making it a better place to live. By practive citizenship I mean people supporting their local shops, pubs, clubs and societies etc rather than spend the majority of their money at out of town shopping malls or other city centres.
 
MrRAWhite said:
The welfare system in the UK is something which we need to cherrish and support, but we do also need to weed out those who abuse it.
I'm also a great believer in the concept of proactive citizenship as a way of boosting the local economy and therefore protecting and creating employment, as well as making it a better place to live. By practive citizenship I mean people supporting their local shops, pubs, clubs and societies etc rather than spend the majority of their money at out of town shopping malls or other city centres.
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I agree but look what happened in Sacriston.

Tesco opened right opposite a row of local shops who are all feeling the effects.

In Stanley I buy my meat from the butchers & my fruit from the grocers.

Owt else I use the local happy shopper. **** ASDA.
 
Don't know if you would class York as the North East (I probably wouldn't) but the same problems are here too. There is so much youth unemployment, it is unbelievable. I remember when I graduated in 2009. I struggled to get a job in my chosen field! Eventually I moved down to London (only to be moved back later <laugh> to work in a, now, half decent job.

We need to do all we can to protect local economies. I always go to farm shops, and local newsagents for things. Try not to use corporations as much as possible.

America is a terrible place to be if you have nothing though. They cast the poor and uneducated aside, leaving only the well off to survive. Sad state of affairs there and I hope the UK never goes that way (but I suspect we will)
 
If I had my way I would shut down all of the out of town giant shopping malls (such as the metro centre) which is in my opinion just Americanization. These places have had a terrible effect on villages, towns and cities, and have probably cost a lot more jobs than they have created. They also create greater levels of pollution due to the inevitable increased car journeys.
 
I disagree that up here it's difficult to get a job. I think you mean a job you want.

The problem with our welfare system is people feel that certain jobs are beneath them and would rather be on benefits than the humiliation of a low paid job!

This attitude has to change! The biggest dullards in our society take pride in not working and have no problem sponging!
 
I ended up in the SE for work. Talk about overcrowded and expensive. If we improved transport and decentralized we could ship jobs out to the regions.

No government wants to try it though, as they're all equally crap in my humble opinion.
 
New data from a project funded by the social investor shows that their chances of employment or attending a red brick university are extremely low
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To be honest if you want a job your better off not going to uni these days. I know plenty of people who went to red brick uni's that can't get jobs.

I think Tony makes a good point:

I disagree that up here it's difficult to get a job. I think you mean a job you want.

The problem with our welfare system is people feel that certain jobs are beneath them and would rather be on benefits than the humiliation of a low paid job!

This attitude has to change! The biggest dullards in our society take pride in not working and have no problem sponging!
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The system we have at the moment is flawed, people think you get something for nothing. There is so much fraud in the system too that the people that really need to benefits don't always get them. I think the current government have done some excellent things to help people on low paid jobs, I am very much in favor of raising the tax threshold so people on low paid jobs don't pay any income tax and minimal NI. The system needs to encourage people into jobs and their should be incentives for people to get off benefits and into work.
 
As the modern proverb goes "When America sneezes, the world catches a cold".

The current economic crisis can be traced back to Regan and Thatcher reigns.
 
Nostalgic said:
As the modern proverb goes "When America sneezes, the world catches a cold".

The current economic crisis can be traced back to Regan and Thatcher reigns.
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WTF?

Thatch got the boot in 1991. The current mess started in 2007. If you want someone to blame, blame Gordon Brown. It wasn't his fault that the banking crisis started, but he'd had ten years of economic good times, but when we needed some of the cash he'd taken in it turned out that not only had he spent it, but he'd borrowed more on top and kept a load "off-balance sheet" via the PFI.

You might as well blame Callaghan and the Winter of Discontent...
 
I'm trying to avoid the big corporations as much as possible.

Next on the list is to close my bank accounts with Barclays & open new ones at the Post Office.
 
I left school in 1980 and nothing has changed in the NE in all that time. If you want a job they are out there as one of the lads said it's the abuses of the benefits system that have people thinking twice about getting a low paid job.
 
talcnturnip said:
I left school in 1980 and nothing has changed in the NE in all that time. If you want a job they are out there as one of the lads said it's the abuses of the benefits system that have people thinking twice about getting a low paid job.
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You are roughly the same age as me talc, I left in '83 & by then the was literally **** all apart from the then YOP schemes.

I did that for a while & was doing nowt but making tea & sweeping up.
That's why I did what I did.

Of course things have improved since then & I agree, if you are prepared to do owt you will get summat.

It's a question if a person is prepared to work full time to be £30 a week better off. Personally, I would.
 
Australia is the same. There are jobs there, but no one will do them. They all feel they should be getting paid a fortune, right now, without working for it. I havent met an Australian taxi driver in years (By that I mean a Caucasian one many generations an Aussie). Kids of today have been spoon fed **** since they were young, getting the lastest and greatest gadgets, clothes, holidays etc, and they want to continue that life without working for it. Sure, there are people who desperatly want to get a job and support themselves, but so many people I see just say '**** it', why work for it when they are going to give it you anyways? Pisses me off. We need to stop handing out **** and getting people working for it.

Bring on the zombie apocalypse i say, and lets all just fend for ourselves. Would be a **** load easier. Minus the constant threat of being eaten.
 
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