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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Erik, Mar 31, 2011.

  1. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator
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    I don't think anyone really believes you're a fundamentalist, they're just having a dig for the sake of it <ok>
     
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  2. Shameless

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    Well the ad infinitum (+tedious) religious apologists would say that it denies man choice - or from God: 'without faith, I am nothing', the guy with the 7 year old who religionists attempted to indoctrinate, or the guy who says he was taught about a God who would really **** him up if he strayed from the path etc - it strikes me that they are not offered choices by those who seek to convince and brainwash them at an early age.

    Man is gullible and superstitious - there is a great deal of evidence for this. Some mentioned the God Delusion earlier in this debate. I love his illustration of the mysterious gods in Vanuatu who bring 'cargo' which just goes to show how a fearful and impressionable group of people can so easily create and hang onto their superstitions by dint of mutual group corroboration that perpetuates myth.

    I'm getting a bit bored of the evidence debate, which has become a bit too circular tbh. There is no evidence of Santa Clause, but that does not mean he does not exist (and the because we cannot prove he doesn't, doesn't mean he does etc)

    Back to stereo's evidence debate. If there was such great mysteries on earth such as that of a loving God, then wouldn't there would be evidence of all sorts of miraculous and paranormal activities everywhere.

    Why do you not believe in God Mr Russell?
    Bertrand: "no evidence".
     
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  3. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    your inbox is full edge
     
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  4. Hash.

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    yes they will ..they'll burn for all eternity <ok>

    p.s. Father jack says its lovely and warm outside girls so no need for yer sweaters today
     
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  5. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    hell will be better anyway, much better staff down there. folk from heaven are all boring ****s like Dev.
     
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  6. Hash.

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    What if God was one of us
    Just a slob like one of us
    Just a stranger on the bus
    Trying to make his way home

    If God had a face what would it look like
    And would you want to see
    If seeing meant that you would have to believe
    In things like heaven and in jesus and the saints and all the prophets
     
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  7. Otto Flayshow

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    I am God. Bow down before me you insolent ****s.
     
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  8. RebelBhoy

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    Its not teaching though. its my opinion. For whatever the hell that is worth.

    In my opinion you'll be ok. biblical teaching is pretty broad on it.

    you have to be one of the 144 000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel.
    You cannot be a rich man?
    some translations have it that you have to convert to believing in Christ. Others that you just have to repent your sins.

    The first one is the kicker though. I am the 4th nicest person in my house. I don't think I'd qualify in the top 144 000 of all time....And I am not even israeli.

    My thoughts on it are that if you are fundamentally a good person, you'll probably make the cut.
     
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  9. xLuKeYx

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    Source? Evidence? Didn't think so...

    Because "smart people" would have known he was full of ****...

    I read a book the other day. It was about a guy who had to do a series of really weird and crazy things in order to secure the release of his daughter by terrorists. Are you going to try and claim that this actually happened too? Using your logic, nobody would have written it down had it not happened, despite the author admitting it sits in the same library section as the bible should, the one marked "Fiction".

    Can you prove his sources are not flawed?

    Anyone claiming god exists never makes any sense, as the existence of any god goes against all reasonable logic and proven science.

    You have repeated this a few times, "a carpenters son". Doesn't the phrase "immaculate conception" imply that the carpenter never actually stuck his cock in Mary? So how could he be a carpenters son? I thought he was the son of god? Why doesn't any of this make sense? Is it because too many people made up too much, and none of it goes together very well?


    "Of course it is debatable weather Jesus ever existed at all", and simply moved on. This is untrue

    If one man doubts it, it is debatable. I'm not fully convinced he did, so that makes YOUR statement untrue, not Dawkins.
     
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  10. Hash.

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    answer my questions ****s .. please thank you come again
     
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    I never claimed anything.

    I did say that quite a number of times didn't I. You don't believe he is the son of God, therefore he is the son of a carpenter according to what is written about him. Is that correct?

    Would you describe the holocaust as debatable?
     
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    Given the Jewish population of the region at the time, you are essentially saying there were no clever people at all......which if true, that this region was populated by dummies, then surely furthering the argument that there were no contemporary sources for the life of Jesus is ...well.....Dumb.
     
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    What if God was one of us?
    - He was, vile sinner, he was a human as frail as you or I, and he died a human death that you might live. He wasn't a slob because sloth is a deadly sin, and he wasn't on a bus, because he had decided not to let mankind invent them until about 2000 years later. God does have a face and it looks much like Jim Whatshisface from the Passion of the Christ (fortunately for the accuracy of that film). <ok>
     
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    It is......as it was.
     
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  15. Admiral Pure

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    There is absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever <whistle>
     
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  16. Hash.

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    good stuff admiral i am truly enlightened <ok>
     
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  17. RebelBhoy

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    :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  18. Kim Jong Il

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    this is getting boring. Gail needs to visit this thread

    please log in to view this image
     
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    I will say it again:

    Why do you not believe in God Mr Russell?
    Bertrand: "no evidence".
     
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  20. Hugh Briss

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    I don't want to start any blasphemous rumours but I think that God has a sick sense of humour, and when I die, I expect to find him laughing...
     
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