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Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed said:
having watched villa yesterday guru, i doubt there has ever been a manager alive who could make that lot of no-hopers into a decent team. i'm being 100% honest when i say this, but ipswich would have beaten villa yesterday. they were that bad. it should have finished about 7-0 such was our dominance - and we played much of the game in 2nd gear. they are in big, big, big trouble next season and i'd happily predict them to finish bottom of the table next year. they are awful. except for shay given. he's top notch <ok>
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Perhaps Mcleish wasn't getting the support of the players? there must have been an idea that he was going today no matter what the result, so where was the incentive for them? Its a hard one to predict, on paper its a sideways move, but how many times does football make sense.

Lets put it this way, would you say it would be a good move for a manager to jump ship to the club his present one had just beaten 7-1?
 
Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed said:
now i ask you, why would you leave that to go and start from scratch at a bigger club where you'd have very little money to spend and a wafer-thin squad? would you do it for the sake of money? would you do it for the sake of an extra 6k on the gate? would you do it cos they have won a european cup thirty years ago? or would you continue the job you're enjoying and getting great results from for a bit longer and see where it takes you? as a club its norwich who have been showing the ambition these past couple of years and its clubs like villa who are not. norwich have, until now, matched lambert's ambitions and i see no reason why they won't continue to do so. he'll know when he's reached both his and norwich's ceiling. we haven't yet <ok>
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But when he moved from Colchester to Norwich he took on mainly a bunch of no-hopers too!
 
Guru of Ipswich said:
Perhaps Mcleish wasn't getting the support of the players? there must have been an idea that he was going today no matter what the result, so where was the incentive for them? Its a hard one to predict, on paper its a sideways move, but how many times does football make sense.

Lets put it this way, would you say it would be a good move for a manager to jump ship to the club his present one had just beaten 7-1?
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it wasn't just one game though was it. they've been awful all season. lambert loves players who play with passion. only given did that. and again, the colchester comparison is daft! norwich in league one were effectively the equivalent of man united in the premier league. the result that day was meaningless to lambert - it was all about what he could do with the club and he's been proven right. the gap between norwich and villa is minimal at best
 
POA1902 said:
Very much this. I'm just not seeing the Villa attraction... Undoubtedly a bigger club than us, but whether or not they are a step up from where Lambert currently is, is a different matter entirely. Little money to spend, with a fan base that's going to be on him straight away. I can't help thinking that the way the Villa fans behaved towards McLeish yesterday will have a small amount to play in Lambert's decision as well. He can't not of noticed some of the chants emanating from there direction towards McLeish. Added to the fact the MON was hardly a massive success there and it just doesn't make much logical sense to me for him to leave at the moment. We'll wait and see...
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The fact of the matter is that McLeish was the Villa fans wanted the least out of anybody (Joey barton as player manager would be more popular), he has been a dead man walking all season, the fans WANT Lambert, so surely that would be incentive surely?
 
Guru of Ipswich said:
Perhaps Mcleish wasn't getting the support of the players? there must have been an idea that he was going today no matter what the result, so where was the incentive for them? Its a hard one to predict, on paper its a sideways move, but how many times does football make sense.

Lets put it this way, would you say it would be a good move for a manager to jump ship to the club his present one had just beaten 7-1?
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Come on Guru, Col Who are a pub team and well you know it, that was completely different. Hell, we were getting 26K crowds in League 1 col who get 260 !! <doh>
 
Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed said:
it wasn't just one game though was it. they've been awful all season. lambert loves players who play with passion. only given did that. and again, the colchester comparison is daft! norwich in league one were effectively the equivalent of man united in the premier league. the result that day was meaningless to lambert - it was all about what he could do with the club and he's been proven right. the gap between norwich and villa is minimal at best
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And that is effectively what he will be thinking about with Villa.
 
Guru of Ipswich said:
The fact of the matter is that McLeish was the Villa fans wanted the least out of anybody (Joey barton as player manager would be more popular), he has been a dead man walking all season, the fans WANT Lambert, so surely that would be incentive surely?
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It's incentive because the fans want him? So little things like money, the squad needing a complete overhaul, what he can actually achieve there go out of the window because he is getting his ego stroked by the villa fans? Spurs fans wanted Harry to stay when the England job first came up. Ask them there opinion now... Footballs fickle. I would hope Lambert would be intelligent enough to not fall for the fawning of the Villa fanbase...
 
kickitoff-throwitin No.6 said:
Come on Guru, Col Who are a pub team and well you know it, that was completely different. Hell, we were getting 26K crowds in League 1 col who get 260 !! <doh>
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But supers is making comparisons about yourselves and Villa just purely on league position and finance, not structure and potential.

The potential for Villa is enormous, certainly more than Norwich. they are potentially the biggest club in the country's second largest city, the fan base is massive compared to Norwich!
 
Guru of Ipswich said:
But supers is making comparisons about yourselves and Villa just purely on league position and finance, not structure and potential.

The potential for Villa is enormous, certainly more than Norwich. they are potentially the biggest club in the country's second largest city, the fan base is massive compared to Norwich!
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But Leeds have a massive fan base compared to us, but he won't be going there anytime soon.
 
Guru of Ipswich said:
But supers is making comparisons about yourselves and Villa just purely on league position and finance, not structure and potential.

The potential for Villa is enormous, certainly more than Norwich. they are potentially the biggest club in the country's second largest city, the fan base is massive compared to Norwich!
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the potential for villa is bigger than norwich, but that potential is a million miles away from being recognised and would require finance that they don't have. why would he start from scratch at a club where there is a small possibility of getting to the top rather than staying another year or two and getting a top job already at the top? it makes no sense and you know it! its not going to happen <ok>
 
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