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SKD said a while ago that Cortese isn't a hard man and is misunderstood. Think only the real fringe players will leave, but most who have contributed this year will be kept on with a few additions. NC is a businessman who will make the hard decisions if need be, but he isn't a hatchet man if he thinks you've done what is required of you.
 
SAINTDON13 said:
I am getting very depressed at the moment, don't know if it is the weather, the withdrawal symptons or the pure negativity on this site, someone say something to cheer me up, something along the lines of we are a Premier side, and are going to bring in some wonderful players, that might cheer me up a little.
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We are Southampton
We're Premier League

And if that don't do it, how about "pompey's goin down with no money in the bank"?
 
saintlyhero said:
Back to Chaplow and i think it's fair to say he and a lot of the squad have earned the right to stay here next season. When Cork signed last summer I thought it was curtains for Chaplow, but he proved me and i'm sure many others wrong. I think we will bring in at least one more midfielder this summer and Chaplows place in the 18 man match squad will be under pressure, but he has shown to have the right attitude for that fight.

Can someone remind me what the rules are for the 25 man squad. Perhaps if we count who qualifies it will give us some idea as to who might be leaving and coming in.
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With the current squad this would be the players who would have to be named in the 25

1. Davis
2. Richardson
3. Harding
4. Schneiderlin
5. Fonte
6. Lambert
7. Cork
8. Barnard
9. Guly
10. Sharp
11. Butterfield
12. Fox
13. Hammond
14. Martin
15. Chaplow
16. Lee
17. Lallana
18. Bart
19. Connolly
20. Seaborne
21. Hooiveld
22. De Ridder
23. Puncheon
24. Forecast
25. Forte
Only player in the squad I've missed out (I think), is Jaidi as he is retiring. If the players above are with us next season and play in the Prem they will have to be registered, leaving us no free spaces for over 21 players
 
JakeW said:
I'm pretty sure when we started the season, beating Leeds on the opening day, for example, Chaplow didn't feature.
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Up until the point that Chaplow got injured at Bristol late November last year, we had won 69% of our games with him (16 in total). At that point we had also won 50% without him (four in total).

Following his injury, it is no coincidence that without Chaplow we had a bad run from December through to mid-Feb winning only 30% of our games (10 games in total).

Once Chaplow returned, we won 64% of our games through to the end of the season and 40% without him. Throughout the whole season; with Chaplow our win ratio was 67% (27 games in total) and without, 42% (26 games in total).

During some of our best performances, notably 3-0 against 'Boro and 4-0 v Derby, Chaplow was present.

Chaplow drives the play forward and takes players on unlike Cork, Hammond and Schneiderlin. His tenacity supplements Scheiderlin's creativity and Cork's passing well. He is a CM and in some ways it is a shame that he's played out on the wing where IMO he is less effective but still a better bet than Guly and De Ridder. He scored more goals than Hammond, Schneiderlin and Cork this season, passes and tackles well and has an adventurous box-to-box style.

If Chaplow is not good enough for the Prem, then that's the same said for a lot of the rest of the squad and that's just not true. I'd hate to lose Chaplow next season.
 
letissier86 said:
JakeW said:
I'm pretty sure when we started the season, beating Leeds on the opening day, for example, Chaplow didn't feature.
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Up until the point that Chaplow got injured at Bristol late November last year, we had won 69% of our games with him (16 in total). At that point we had also won 50% without him (four in total).

Following his injury, it is no coincidence that without Chaplow we had a bad run from December through to mid-Feb winning only 30% of our games (10 games in total).

Once Chaplow returned, we won 64% of our games through to the end of the season and 40% without him. Throughout the whole season; with Chaplow our win ratio was 67% (27 games in total) and without, 42% (26 games in total).

During some of our best performances, notably 3-0 against 'Boro and 4-0 v Derby, Chaplow was present.

Chaplow drives the play forward and takes players on unlike Cork, Hammond and Schneiderlin. His tenacity supplements Scheiderlin's creativity and Cork's passing well. He is a CM and in some ways it is a shame that he's played out on the wing where IMO he is less effective but still a better bet than Guly and De Ridder. He scored more goals than Hammond, Schneiderlin and Cork this season, passes and tackles well and has an adventurous box-to-box style.

If Chaplow is not good enough for the Prem, then that's the same said for a lot of the rest of the squad and that's just not true. I'd hate to lose Chaplow next season.
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Great post and fully agree!
 
letissier86 said:
Up until the point that Chaplow got injured at Bristol late November last year, we had won 69% of our games with him (16 in total). At that point we had also won 50% without him (four in total).

Following his injury, it is no coincidence that without Chaplow we had a bad run from December through to mid-Feb winning only 30% of our games (10 games in total).

Once Chaplow returned, we won 64% of our games through to the end of the season and 40% without him. Throughout the whole season; with Chaplow our win ratio was 67% (27 games in total) and without, 42% (26 games in total).

During some of our best performances, notably 3-0 against 'Boro and 4-0 v Derby, Chaplow was present.

Chaplow drives the play forward and takes players on unlike Cork, Hammond and Schneiderlin. His tenacity supplements Scheiderlin's creativity and Cork's passing well. He is a CM and in some ways it is a shame that he's played out on the wing where IMO he is less effective but still a better bet than Guly and De Ridder. He scored more goals than Hammond, Schneiderlin and Cork this season, passes and tackles well and has an adventurous box-to-box style.

If Chaplow is not good enough for the Prem, then that's the same said for a lot of the rest of the squad and that's just not true. I'd hate to lose Chaplow next season.
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Here here.....
 
Saintmagic said:
With the current squad this would be the players who would have to be named in the 25

1. Davis
2. Richardson
3. Harding
4. Schneiderlin
5. Fonte
6. Lambert
7. Cork
8. Barnard
9. Guly
10. Sharp
11. Butterfield
12. Fox
13. Hammond
14. Martin
15. Chaplow
16. Lee
17. Lallana
18. Bart
19. Connolly
20. Seaborne
21. Hooiveld
22. De Ridder
23. Puncheon
24. Forecast
25. Forte
Only player in the squad I've missed out (I think), is Jaidi as he is retiring. If the players above are with us next season and play in the Prem they will have to be registered, leaving us no free spaces for over 21 players
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From that list, I can see Forte, Forecast and maybe Barnard and Seaborne let go over the summer.
 
As Saintmagic's 25-man squad shows, we will need to let some players go to free up space for new ones.

From that list I think Bialkowski, Connolly, Barnard, Forte, and Holmes will all probably go. Dickson wasn't included in the list, but he's actually still a southampton player so I'll add him to those I've already mentioned.

Forecast won't be registered, but he won't leave because nobody wants him and he seems happy to take his money and see out his contract.

De Ridder and Puncheon might go. Personally I'd be happy to keep them but I wouldn't be particularly bothered if they went. I'd be surprised to see any of the others leave.

Assuming De Ridder and Puncheon both stay that leaves us 6 spaces on the register for new players.
 
If it was me:

1. Davis
2. Richardson
3. Harding
4. Schneiderlin
5. Fonte
6. Lambert
7. Cork
8. Barnard
9. Guly
10. Sharp
11. Butterfield - Leave out.
12. Fox
13. Hammond
14. Martin - Unsure, Might loan him out to a championship side to get some First team experience.
15. Chaplow
16. Lee
17. Lallana
18. Bart
19. Connolly - Leave out.
20. Seaborne - Not sure how well he has recovered, can remember what he was like either....
21. Hooiveld
22. De Ridder
23. Puncheon
24. Forecast - Leave out.
25. Forte - Leave out.
 
Well done St Magic. Just goes to show that there really is little room for sentiment towards players especially those who have only been bit parts over the last season. Out of the 25 listed (Safe to say it's goodbye for Dickson & Holmes) I would say Forte and Forecast are definitely out. What happened to Seaborne was unfortunate but I think a central defender is one of the top priorities in the transfer window.
Age and injury will say goodbye to Connolly and that leaves 4 spaces for new signings. So we may well be looking at players under 21 like Nick Powell of Crewe for the forthcoming window.

Are Reeves, Doble and Hoskins all under 21? It's touch and go whether all three have a future with us anyway but this would be the kiss of death for there Southampton careers
 
Dickson
Forte
Seaborne
Connolly
Barnard
Puncheon
Forecast
Jaidi

All to leave, to replaced by some of the youngsters and brought in players.
 
JakeW said:
His previous stint at WBA suggests otherwise.
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And Kelvin Davis' previous stint in the prem would suggest he is not a prem quality keeper, however he has earned it and should be given a chance by being one of our best players this season, so has Chaplow. I also believe Chaplow brings a lot to the dressing room, seems like a real character.
 
Beef_Dripping said:
Dickson
Forte
Seaborne
Connolly
Barnard
Puncheon
Forecast
Jaidi

All to leave, to replaced by some of the youngsters and brought in players.
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Think this could be the movement we are likely to see at the club:

Forte Leave or loan club
Seaborne Keep
Connolly Leave ( I personally would keep but think he will go :angry:)
Barnard May be loan depends who we secure striker wise
Puncheon Depends who we bring in
Forecast Leave or Loan
Jaidi Retire or coaching role

Add to that List

Martin Loan defo out on season long loan. The lad needs the experience.
Holmes Leave
Dickson Loan season long or leave
 
SFC5BAG said:
Think this could be the movement we are likely to see at the club:

Forte Leave or loan club
Seaborne Keep
Connolly Leave ( I personally would keep but think he will go :angry:)
Barnard May be loan depends who we secure striker wise
Puncheon Depends who we bring in
Forecast Leave or Loan
Jaidi Retire or coaching role

Add to that List

Martin Loan defo out on season long loan. The lad needs the experience.
Holmes Leave
Dickson Loan season long or leave
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Forgot about Holmes he will join Swindon on a perm, Jaidi will retire. He's doing his badges to become a manager.
 
Knew I forgot some players :D

Yeah didn't include Dickson or Holmes as they weren't on the current squad bit on Saints wiki page. I personally think that:

Bart
Forte
Seaborne
Dickson
Holmes
Barnard
Forecast
Connolly
Butterfield
Harding

won't be here next year, and maybe one of the CM's if we sign someone to play there
 
AdamBanana20 said:
Chaplow works his socks off for the team,but he is not premier league quality I'm afraid.He lacks vision,passing ability,skill and an eye for goal.
Good championship player.
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Exactly. Not hard to understand. It's not negativity, either, just realism.
 
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