Mathematical safety
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My take on it is this.
Blackburn and Wolves can't catch us on points. QPR can equal our points total (though I doubt they'll win all their remaining games) and unless we get a drubbing like we did today from one or more teams, then their 'goal difference' is inferior to ours. Should they match us on points and equal our goal difference, then we would finish above them as we beat them home and away. These are their remaining fixtures -
Tottenham (H)
Chelsea (A)
QPR v Stoke (H)
Man City (A)
Hope this helps.
Blackburn and Wolves can't catch us on points. QPR can equal our points total (though I doubt they'll win all their remaining games) and unless we get a drubbing like we did today from one or more teams, then their 'goal difference' is inferior to ours. Should they match us on points and equal our goal difference, then we would finish above them as we beat them home and away. These are their remaining fixtures -
Tottenham (H)
Chelsea (A)
QPR v Stoke (H)
Man City (A)
Hope this helps.
That is correct.And it is an academic argument.After goal difference was taken into account we would be above them on goals scored.Then on alphabetical order. (joke)
I can't believe we'll not get at least one more point!
Totally agree and would like to see us begin at Blackburn next week. Looking forward to the Liverpool game in a couple of weeks as well.
They don't figure it's : Points,Goal difference,goals scored,results between teams.Goals conceded has already been factored in by goal difference.If GD is the same and you have conceded more then you've scored more too.
My maths really is awful at the moment. I used to be better at it, honestly!No need to aplogise.I trained as a teacher.A long time ago and never did the job (luckily) so probably have an advantage there.On the other hand I was a crap centre back,like a clumsy Duncan Forbes.
In my innocence, I thought I was making a simple point in my OP, namely that, no matter what else happened, if QPR drop one more point, our safety is mathematically guaranteed.
Straight and to the point. Won't cause any confusion!
Basically, we need 3 teams to not be able to catch us. Wolves and Blackburn cannot and so the worst we could currently do is finish 3rd bottom (relegation.)
Bolton and Wigan can both catchus by winning ALL their remaining games. QPR can match our points total by winning all theirs.
In Summary, for Norwich to be relegated we must lose all our remaining games and Bolton & Wigan can drop no more than 2pts each and QPR must win all their games while turning around a 7 goal difference (not difficult if we are losing all ours).
As well as the above, all the teams between us and 18th have to pick up the necessary points to overtake us.
It's not going to happen, we are safe.
Bolton and Wigan can both catchus by winning ALL their remaining games. QPR can match our points total by winning all theirs.
In Summary, for Norwich to be relegated we must lose all our remaining games and Bolton & Wigan can drop no more than 2pts each and QPR must win all their games while turning around a 7 goal difference (not difficult if we are losing all ours).
As well as the above, all the teams between us and 18th have to pick up the necessary points to overtake us.
It's not going to happen, we are safe.
Technically, if QPR win their last four games and we lose our last four games, their goal difference must be at least equal to ours (since there is a difference of eight at the moment).
However, given they have to play Spurs, Chelsea, Stoke and Man City, if they win all four of those games they DESERVE to stay up.
It aint gonna happen folks, we are safe.
However, given they have to play Spurs, Chelsea, Stoke and Man City, if they win all four of those games they DESERVE to stay up.
It aint gonna happen folks, we are safe.
A win (or even a point) at Blackburn - but I'm going for a win will put all this trying to work out who needs to lose x number of games for us to be mathematically safe. As a bright note after saturday's defeat against Man City (yes there is 1) the next game we played we won 4-2 (v Newcastle - our highest win to date in the premier league I believe). On saturday we lost at home to the team 2nd from top - our next game is away to the team 2nd from bottom in the premier league, hopefully the result will also be reversed (a convincing win for Norwich)
Talk about panic. The game before we were world beaters looking to climb the league, now you're biting your nails over something that isn't possibly going to happen.
And it all started with a simple post drawing attention to a rather gratifying irony, namely that the honour of making us mathematically safe might well fall to our good "friends" QPR! Some of us clearly need to sharpen our sense of humour!
Of course we are safe, but PL's target is mathematical safety, as he's said on numerous occasions!
