When Ramsey becomes the player that his talent dictates, he will look back at this season as a great learning curve. It will only make him stronger for the future. I even seen some ****ing idiots that call themselves Arsenal fans giving him abuse on twitter. Just pathetic.
Aaron Ramsey.....
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Who are you to have the definitive opinion.
The negative, player bashing HAS to stop. When we were losing it was not helpful and looked like a cheap attempt to gain popularity. While we are doing well, it is ridiculous.
Sounds like you are more worried about looking like a fool for being wrong and faithless, than glad the team is doing well.
lol .
just lol .
"Who are you to have the definitive opinion."
errr............. i didnt say i did did i ?
ill have to go check my post to see where i said that , be right back ....
no. i checked , i didnt say that .
i think you should be more worried about looking like a fool..
just lol .
"Who are you to have the definitive opinion."
errr............. i didnt say i did did i ?
ill have to go check my post to see where i said that , be right back ....
no. i checked , i didnt say that .
i think you should be more worried about looking like a fool..
The problem is now we are on a good run people can't moan about the team so it's easy to pick on an individual player.When we get to the close season people will read the tabloid gossip and spend all summer moaning about the board.
"The problem is now we are on a good run people can't moan about the team so it's easy to pick on an individual player."
come on , do you actually believe this or is this s cheap attempt to gain popularity .
some sensitive souls on this forum .
Im sorry if i hurt your feelings you guys. I cant stay mad at you .
Aaron Ramsey is great ...I will never criticise him again i promise.
there , there .
come on , do you actually believe this or is this s cheap attempt to gain popularity .
some sensitive souls on this forum .
Im sorry if i hurt your feelings you guys. I cant stay mad at you .
Aaron Ramsey is great ...I will never criticise him again i promise.
there , there .
"Personally I feel Wenger was wrong in not ensuring that he either extended the loan spell with Cardiff or went to play for another Championship club."
Well we are both singing off the same hymnsheet there .
Total agreement , and thats not just a cheap attempt to gain popularity .
Well we are both singing off the same hymnsheet there .
Total agreement , and thats not just a cheap attempt to gain popularity .
What I don't understand is if Song is not top four material and Ramsey is useless, how did we win so many games with both in the team and no recognizable full backs? Add in the fact that Walcott was in there and also supposed by many to be useless.
Most people were slating Rosicky as well, before very recently, so we qualified for the knockout rounds of the CL without full backs and without a midfield worthy of the name.
Do some of you read the stuff you write before you post it?
sometimes it is meant to antagonise..... we nearly all fall prey to that.
What gets annoying is the 'I'm whiter than white' ****e that members protest.
What gets annoying is the 'I'm whiter than white' ****e that members protest.
This is fair. Ramsey is playing bad but we know he has the quality. He's had a long season and it's probably beginning to show. After an injury like he's had it's likely related to poor fitness following a full season. I think some of the anger is directed at Wenger for picking him though, especially against QPR.
you can't blame Wenger for needing to rest Rosicky after the amount he's played. he's over 30 now and if he'd broken down a few weeks ago kiss top 4 goodbye.
the problem is, with Wilshere & Diaby still out, there isn't really a replacement for Rosicky other than Ramsey. So the pressure has been on him. Personally, i wouldn't have minded seeing Oxo play in the CM role for a game or two, or even Benayoun who can be very creative there. Ramsey is having a bad spell just now, and playing him doesn't seem to be helping him much.
the problem is, with Wilshere & Diaby still out, there isn't really a replacement for Rosicky other than Ramsey. So the pressure has been on him. Personally, i wouldn't have minded seeing Oxo play in the CM role for a game or two, or even Benayoun who can be very creative there. Ramsey is having a bad spell just now, and playing him doesn't seem to be helping him much.
Once again you're using very very silly blinker logic. So in your world, we as fans, should never criticise a player, or maybe even the club, because there is a chance/possibility that things will turn around eventually for the better. I'm not going to feel shy, embarrassed, or silent in the least if Ramsey eventually comes good. The fact is is that he has been sh!t all season, and us fans coming out and stating the OBVIOUS is not something we should get shy about if he eventually comes out and starts playing better, in fact, WE HOPE HE CAN PROVE US WRONG AND BECOME A GREAT PLAYER, but that doesn't change the fact that he is playing very badly right now and we are not going to sit quietly about it and say nothing, but rather we are going to openly talk about it.
In fact, by your silly logic, we should've never criticised denilson, bendtner, and many other players because of the remote chance that they would turn good, and we would then have to eat our words or make 'excuses' in the future, no, we don't have to make any excuses, we won't have to eat any words, rather what we will say is finally the player is starting to play good and not sh!t like he was doing before.
But you can remain in your blinker little world, where fans criticising the team is non existent and should never happen. oh, and just for the record, RAMSEY'S ****.
There seems to be a difference of opinion here between BLINKER fans and REALISTIC fans, blinker fans don't like critiques of the team or players, you want to live in your little made up bubble where everything is rosy and nice, where everyone is good, where nobody is bad, and there's nothing to see, move on....while we have other REALISTIC FANS who will state their mind and opinion on an obvious problem, rather than PRETENDING there is no problem.
You guys say oh we are on a good run now so we shouldn't do it, really? I seem to recall losing to QPR last week where Ramsey was put in the team and gave one of the worst performances I and others have seen, and was a direct result to a negative result we had, as well as a negative performance as a team, so give us a break.
You guys say oh we are on a good run now so we shouldn't do it, really? I seem to recall losing to QPR last week where Ramsey was put in the team and gave one of the worst performances I and others have seen, and was a direct result to a negative result we had, as well as a negative performance as a team, so give us a break.
Let me give you an example, Theo Walcott, I don't criticise him much, even though he has put in some very sh!t performances this season, but why don't I get on his case? Well, Walcott, unlike Ramsey, eventually comes good, and puts a shift in, and provides for the team, Ramsey on the other hand, has been consistently **** for the whole season, that's the main point, it hasn't been a small bad patch, IT'S BEEN THE ENTIRE SEASON WHERE HE HAS BEEN PLAYING BADLY (yes he had the odd game here and there where he played good). So we have EVERY RIGHT to critique him and his performances because he has been providing nothing for us lately but rubbish performances.
And whether the blinker fans like it or not, Ramsey does not DESERVE to be in the team ahead of Rosicky, you blinker fans can talk all you want, but we all know that's a FACT that Ramsey has never deserved to be ahead of Rosicky this season, not just now, but even before, fans like myself FOR THE WHOLE SEASON have been saying Rosicky should be starting ahead of Ramsey because it was obvious he was the better player, and Wenger finally saw this by February which just coincided with our current good form once that major change was made.
So the blinker brigade need to examine the facts, because this good run they talk about, just happened to take place when Ramsey was sent to the bench and Rosicky was put into the team, and with his great attacking midfield play he has given us a very very good game play and dynamic.
Nonsense. Ramsey had a good run of form after he scored the winner against Marseille. He was playing well in that period, especially against Chelsea away. And that team had a good run then. Ramsey worked hard and him,Arteta and Song formed a solid midfield. That first run, was our first recovery in the season. His really bad form started against Swansea.
Firstly use the quote function. It makes your ridiculous opinions at least slightly legible.
Wenger is not starting him because he has a man-crush on Ramsey. Its because he's a top talent and performs well in training.
We have had alot of young players come through who at times looked class but never made it. But with Ramsey I am CONFIDENT he will. He tries difficult things and unlike Denilson he relishes a fight. (his best performances for us have come against top teams). At 20 to be made captain of a national side just shows what kind of character Ramsey is.
Fans like you are the reason our 'supporters' get a bad rap.
As I said, he had the odd good game here and there, and you are deluding yourself if you really believe his bad form started at Swansea, he was playing badly before Swansea, he has been playing badly since the start of the season.