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Billy Death
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Actually it's not.
It's about Bruce whining again & blaming others for his sacking.
That useless old **** Gibson is stating it's because he was brought up in Wallsend.
Bruce Whining Again
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Actually it's not.
It's about Bruce whining again & blaming others for his sacking.
That useless old **** Gibson is stating it's because he was brought up in Wallsend.
He's only hurting himself now. I've always thought the quickest way back into football management is not to dwell on the past. Regardless of how you intend it to look, it always comes across as whining. He'd do well to take a leaf out of Hughton's book. His sacking far far more unjustified but he took it with dignity and moved on. Nothing is going to change now. Save it for your book basically.
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Billy Death
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Reading that article, eg: how it affected his family and then having to avoid his local pub, tells me that at least some of this abuse must have come from Newcastle fans simply because he was the Sunderland manager. However, the Chronicle would never dream of putting that angle on this!
Exactly. Gibson is saying that, not Bruce. Lay off the man and stop being bitter towards him. He did the best he could.
He is being naive in the extreme. Of course his heritage will be raised by Sunderland fans when things are not going well. What did he expect? That's just the way it is with fans regardless of club. Its your job as a manager to be bigger than the small minority abusing you, by not paying any credence.
He did himself no favours by not having a clue how to manage, and becoming obsessed with us. He forgot there were 18 other teams in the league! He moans about fans abusing him, but chooses to overlook how embarassing for fans his time was. Did he really think Sunderland fans wanted to hear him constantly going on about getting one over their rivals? My mates who are mackems were sick to death of his interviews because of it. And what about the spell where he basically stopped playing strikers, does he know how soul destroying that is for a fan.
Yeah Steve, cry me a ****ing river. You ****ed up, again, get on with it.
He did himself no favours by not having a clue how to manage, and becoming obsessed with us. He forgot there were 18 other teams in the league! He moans about fans abusing him, but chooses to overlook how embarassing for fans his time was. Did he really think Sunderland fans wanted to hear him constantly going on about getting one over their rivals? My mates who are mackems were sick to death of his interviews because of it. And what about the spell where he basically stopped playing strikers, does he know how soul destroying that is for a fan.
Yeah Steve, cry me a ****ing river. You ****ed up, again, get on with it.
Bruce talks rubbish man
he was on talksport the other week saying we needed huge recruiting after Steed and Zenden retired. Im sure Steed retired after he moved to St Etienne and Zenden would of stayed if he had been guarenteed more of a chance.
then he went on to say at the start of last season we had the best strike force the club has seen in Welbeck, Bent, Gyan and Campbell.
Didn't we go out and get Gyan after Campbell got injured? If Campbell hadn't who knows we might not of even signed Gyan as Fenerbahche were interested
he was on talksport the other week saying we needed huge recruiting after Steed and Zenden retired. Im sure Steed retired after he moved to St Etienne and Zenden would of stayed if he had been guarenteed more of a chance.
then he went on to say at the start of last season we had the best strike force the club has seen in Welbeck, Bent, Gyan and Campbell.
Didn't we go out and get Gyan after Campbell got injured? If Campbell hadn't who knows we might not of even signed Gyan as Fenerbahche were interested
To be fair mate, you are correct.
It's his constant excuses and the "needed more time argument" he constantly spouts that boils my piss. Also the patronising aspect of his interviews towards the Sunderland fans (re expectations) was very annoying.
Was the 11 months of dire performances and results not long enough for you Steve??
His sacking had absolutely nothing to do with him being a geordie. It was just something that was referred to in a song the match before he got sacked. The hostility towards him and his teams performance would have been the same wherever the manager was from.
He is a horrible, bitter man who needs to move on and find himself a job with a club like Wigan or Bolton (no offence intended to any fans from those clubs who are reading this) where he will find his level.
Each and every club has a minority of fans that become very abusive when the manager reveals himself to be lacking the competence to perform at the required standard. Steve Bruce via his media interviews, appears to be attempting to paint a picture that suggests the abuse he recieved from the fans of Sunderland was worse than that of any other failing/sacked manager has recieved at any other club. It's quite obvious that Bruce feels embittered by his sacking at Sunderland and his continued attempts to remind the media of 'poor old me, I got shouted at by Sunderland fans' is really quite embarrassing on his behalf.
Surely Bruce isn't so stupid to realise that the more interviews that he provides which are geared toward reminding everybody that the abuse he recieved from a minority of fans is serving nothing other than to fan the flames and therefore we can only ask one question. Why does Bruce continue to mention being shouted at by a minority of fans? Clearly Bruce has his personal motivations... I think Bruce needs to drop the subject, move on and take up a job with a championship club that will appreciate his 'experience'.
Perhaps it would serve Steve Bruce quite well to take a look at Steve Kean at Blackburn as an example where the abuse is/was clearly much more organised and far worse than what Bruce experienced at Sunderland. I can guarantee the day Steve Kean is sacked at Blackburn (and the day will come eventually) Kean won't be whining to the media every other fortnight about the abuse that he recieved. Infact, its part and parcel of being a premier league manager these days.
The influence of money and the perpetual analysis of football in general, whether that be refereeing decisions, players wages and fee's, diving and cheating players like Cabaye and Tiote, team selections and tactics of managers etc etc is now creating far more pressure than ever before and it takes a strong man to adjust/handle the modern day environment. I would suggest that because it was only a minority of fans that shouted at Bruce proves that Bruce is blowing the issue completely out of proportion. As Cestria highlights, the fans didn't shout at him when he arrived at the club, they only shouted at him when the club was sliding toward relegation and those fans would have shouted at any other manager given the same circumstances.
I certainly don't hate Steve Bruce because the only person that is damaged by hatred is the person who holds that hatred within themselves. Ethnicity, sexuality, religion, birthplace etc wouldn't make any difference to me as it's the ability to produce results and inspire the fans that is what is important and Steve Bruce failed on both accounts. That is why Ellis Short took the decision to relieve him of his responsibilities at Sunderland.
I hope Steve Bruce can find himself another job in football however I suspect he needs to drop back to the championship and prove himself at a lower level before he can expect another call from a big club. If Bruce isn't capable of handling the pressure of managing a club the size of Sunderland and won't accept a job at a lower level of football due to the size of his inflated ego then perhaps he ought to find himself a job in a factory earning the minimum wage.
Surely Bruce isn't so stupid to realise that the more interviews that he provides which are geared toward reminding everybody that the abuse he recieved from a minority of fans is serving nothing other than to fan the flames and therefore we can only ask one question. Why does Bruce continue to mention being shouted at by a minority of fans? Clearly Bruce has his personal motivations... I think Bruce needs to drop the subject, move on and take up a job with a championship club that will appreciate his 'experience'.
Perhaps it would serve Steve Bruce quite well to take a look at Steve Kean at Blackburn as an example where the abuse is/was clearly much more organised and far worse than what Bruce experienced at Sunderland. I can guarantee the day Steve Kean is sacked at Blackburn (and the day will come eventually) Kean won't be whining to the media every other fortnight about the abuse that he recieved. Infact, its part and parcel of being a premier league manager these days.
The influence of money and the perpetual analysis of football in general, whether that be refereeing decisions, players wages and fee's, diving and cheating players like Cabaye and Tiote, team selections and tactics of managers etc etc is now creating far more pressure than ever before and it takes a strong man to adjust/handle the modern day environment. I would suggest that because it was only a minority of fans that shouted at Bruce proves that Bruce is blowing the issue completely out of proportion. As Cestria highlights, the fans didn't shout at him when he arrived at the club, they only shouted at him when the club was sliding toward relegation and those fans would have shouted at any other manager given the same circumstances.
I certainly don't hate Steve Bruce because the only person that is damaged by hatred is the person who holds that hatred within themselves. Ethnicity, sexuality, religion, birthplace etc wouldn't make any difference to me as it's the ability to produce results and inspire the fans that is what is important and Steve Bruce failed on both accounts. That is why Ellis Short took the decision to relieve him of his responsibilities at Sunderland.
I hope Steve Bruce can find himself another job in football however I suspect he needs to drop back to the championship and prove himself at a lower level before he can expect another call from a big club. If Bruce isn't capable of handling the pressure of managing a club the size of Sunderland and won't accept a job at a lower level of football due to the size of his inflated ego then perhaps he ought to find himself a job in a factory earning the minimum wage.
I'm in complete agreement with you. Was using those as examples of a "type" of club he could manage.
Nads
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You got sacked for being a **** manager you ****ing turkey.
We gave you more lives than a well blessed cat before we cracked, now **** off and manage a team on your level, like Preston.
Jesus.
We gave you more lives than a well blessed cat before we cracked, now **** off and manage a team on your level, like Preston.
Jesus.
I think that is an insult to Preston
- remember that's where David Moyes came from and he hasn't turned out so bad. I must admit I didn't realise this story was the full front page of tonight's Chronicle! "Driven out by Fans' Hatred" Indeed Mr Bruce I think Ellis Short will beg to differ there. You were sacked for poor results and your failure to manage, and get the best out of, the players you brought to the club. "Hatred" had nothing to do with it.
If Bruce continues like this he will never get another job because no chairman or owner is daft enough to take on a man who fails to accept responsibility for his own failures. Look at the difference between him and Mick mac at Wolves. Different class altogether.
Nads
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I do wonder with the Wolves thing if his constant playing the victim blew it.
Wolves fans are not nearly as tolerant as ours, would he have rolled out a WBA following grandfather?
Our record was a disgrace for a full year, most managers are peddled 2-3months into a bad run.
He is so far from the mark on all of this it's untrue.
When we appointed him, i thought 'good appointment', never did i think 'he's a Mag'.
He brought that on himself (I know there were a few, but they were a tiny minority, I never met one in person who had a problem with him being Geordie)
Wolves fans are not nearly as tolerant as ours, would he have rolled out a WBA following grandfather?
Our record was a disgrace for a full year, most managers are peddled 2-3months into a bad run.
He is so far from the mark on all of this it's untrue.
When we appointed him, i thought 'good appointment', never did i think 'he's a Mag'.
He brought that on himself (I know there were a few, but they were a tiny minority, I never met one in person who had a problem with him being Geordie)
Surely it would be better to use Sunderland players who like to cheat given its a Sunderland thread? You have plenty to choose from. I'll get you started Larrsson, Campbell, Cattermole.
Will you **** off Ballsack!
I ****ing hate agreeing with you!
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“There is a mass scramble for news, a demand to write hundreds upon hundreds of words every day on Sunderland and Newcastle, and while I tried to accommodate everybody in the end the criticism even locally was relentless because the fans had to be fed."
Is he having a go at the Echo for questioning his managerial ability?
They were BIB's for a very long time.
Or were they too calling him a fat Geordie?
A lower league manager at best. ( I even doubt that.)
His continual whining about the Geordie tag is just embarrassing.
As is anyone who thinks different.
the worst bit of that is he didnt sign james mcclean infact somone said he didnt even know he was signing until he walked through the door
and sess he thought was a lone striker