Alan Pardew as Spurs manager?

[Hoddle is a god]

I know that this has been discussed, in passing, in general thread, but there hasn't been a thread devoted solely to the topic.

When he replaced Chris Hughton, I was dead-set against him, but I am prepared to admit that that was primarily down to the way in which the Toon's owner treated him, and I thought that Chris deserved to have a crack at the job, with the club in the EPL. However, it has to be said, that I think Pardew has done a superb job with the Toon, especially bearing in mind the fact that they lost three influential first XI players, and have not replaced them. If they manage to finish above the Chavs, that would be the greatest feat of the season, in my view, and it would put Pardew right up there with the best English managers in the game.

Now, I know he isn't the big name that most Spurs fans would want at the club, but I cannot be alone in thinking that he'd do a great job for us. Sure, we'd probably lose Modric, who may see the appointment as a backward step for us, but we'd get good money for him that could be used to strengthen the squad. And Pardew has shown that he can get his squad to perform, even with the loss of key players.

Yes, I would rather that we had someone like Hiddink or Mourhino, but I certainly wouldn't be too upset if we end up with Pardew.

 

[No Kane No Gain]

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[Roo]

Sure, we'd probably lose Modric, who may see the appointment as a backward step for us, but we'd get good money for him that could be used to strengthen the squad.

but would this not work the other way too, in the sense that we wouldn't be able to attract the players we need?

Pardew's a good manager, there's no doubt about it. However, I don't think he's the replacement for Harry. we could well have CL football next season, something that Pardew has no experience of.

we're at a stage now where the next step is being the side that can consistently gain CL football. we aren't far away from that now, but the club has got to make the investment, which it is doing in a new stadium. next, are the few players we need to make a real difference. But we need to have a manager in place that compliments this. I personally do not feel that Pardew is of that quality, just yet. it wouldn't be a statement if intent to push the club forward, IMO.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

Pardew's done a very good job at Newcastle, but I'd have to say no.
Looks like the Geordies will probably get a shot in the Europa next season, so he'll have a chance to test himself at a new level.

 

[O.Spurcat]

Pushing aside for one moment, my personal intense dislike of Pardew and looking at this from a football point of view, I have to say he is enjoying a good season. I half expected to see Newcastle players be "on the beach" for the rest of the season after they reached the survival points of tally of 39/40 points. That they are pushing on from that, is undoubtedly down to him and credit to him for that.

I was staggered when he was given the Newcastle job and I was certain he would fall flat on his face and prove to be the cheap option which I considered him to be. I thought he was very unfortunate to lose his job at Southampton until I found out it was primarily for his off the filed shennanigans with his captains' wife. And this is where my dislike for the man comes into play as I know this is not the first time in his career he has left a mangerial post for this reason.

The thing is though, that Harry's achievements at Spurs have raised the bar as far as the standard of manager we can attract, and at this moment in time, Alan Pardew does fall short of that.

 

[No Kane No Gain]

Lets hope we get a manager that can speak fluent English, Ramos and Santini were unmitigated disasters.

 

[Jamrag]

Lets hope we get a manager that can speak fluent English, Ramos and Santini were unmitigated disasters.

Did you purposely leave 'Arry off that list?

 

[notsosmartspur]

No.

 

[Spurlock]

but would this not work the other way too, in the sense that we wouldn't be able to attract the players we need?

Pardew's a good manager, there's no doubt about it. However, I don't think he's the replacement for Harry. we could well have CL football next season, something that Pardew has no experience of.

we're at a stage now where the next step is being the side that can consistently gain CL football. we aren't far away from that now, but the club has got to make the investment, which it is doing in a new stadium. next, are the few players we need to make a real difference. But we need to have a manager in place that compliments this. I personally do not feel that Pardew is of that quality, just yet. it wouldn't be a statement if intent to push the club forward, IMO.

i agree with Roo totally

 

[Spurlock]

Pushing aside for one moment, my personal intense dislike of Pardew and looking at this from a football point of view, I have to say he is enjoying a good season. I half expected to see Newcastle players be "on the beach" for the rest of the season after they reached the survival points of tally of 39/40 points. That they are pushing on from that, is undoubtedly down to him and credit to him for that.

I was staggered when he was given the Newcastle job and I was certain he would fall flat on his face and prove to be the cheap option which I considered him to be. I thought he was very unfortunate to lose his job at Southampton until I found out it was primarily for his off the filed shennanigans with his captains' wife. And this is where my dislike for the man comes into play as I know this is not the first time in his career he has left a mangerial post for this reason.

The thing is though, that Harry's achievements at Spurs have raised the bar as far as the standard of manager we can attract, and at this moment in time, Alan Pardew does fall short of that.

and i agree ith this also...we dont need a slimy kunt at our club!

 

[Spurlock]

i actually think AVB would do well for us..better than most expect and much better than he did at that club in Fulham..i like to ignore managers records at a club like Chelsea full of idiots who form factions etc to ruin managers.

 

[CanarySpurs]

I don't think Pardew has the clout or experience at the top level to take on a job like Spurs. He was an honest toiler as a player and is the same as a manager too. He is a disciplinarian and a decent tactician, but I doubt he can inspire top level international class players.

There are many managers "doing well in all the circumstances" in the PL at present- Pardew, Rodgers, Lambert, Jol, Hodgson, Moyes, O'Neill, Pulis- even Kean and Martinez . I can't see that Pardew is a better option than any of those. Spurs need a manager with 'Arry's people skills, but a bit more nous when it comes to pitting his wits against another top level manager in the PL or CL. That means appointing one of their kind or giving a chance to an up and coming manager with some pedigree- like Lambert or Blanc or Deschamps (unlikely with Marseille's finances) or Klopp or perhaps..........Villas-Boas? Previous mistakes in appointing foreign managers are irrelevant- they are all individuals with their own strengths and weaknesses.

I'd love Lambert as manager, top class guy.

 

[Spurlock]

I'd love Lambert as manager, top class guy.

if i had to bet my house on you picking one..it would be Lambert

 

[O.Spurcat]

I'd love Lambert as manager, top class guy.

What Lambert has done at Norwich is unbelievable, he's been an outstanding success there from day one. It seems impossible to believe that not so long ago, Norwich were tonked 7-1 at home on the opening day of the season, to a side managed by Lambert.

I am sure I am correct in saying that his wife (now ex-wife), said to him, "it's me or Norwich City", and he chose Norwich !!

He deserves a chance at a higher level, but again, I believe we can now attract a far more experienced manager than Lambert. His time in the game will surely come, but not in the immediate future at WHL.

 

[Spurlock]

What Lambert has done at Norwich is unbelievable, he's been an outstanding success there from day one. It seems impossible to believe that not so long ago, Norwich were tonked 7-1 at home on the opening day of the season, to a side managed by Lambert.

I am sure I am correct in saying that his wife (now ex-wife), said to him, "it's me or Norwich City", and he chose Norwich !!

He deserves a chance at a higher level, but again, I believe we can now attract a far more experienced manager than Lambert. His time in the game will surely come, but not in the immediate future at WHL.

Spurcat..what with your links to our club..who would you suggest and who do you think the club seriously will go for...or at least what type of man.

 

[Hoddle is a god]

I hear what people are saying about Pardew's lack of experience in the CL, but let's not forget that it was also Harry's first taste of CL footy. It's a Catch 22 scenario, because how is he going to get the experience of CL footy if he's not given the chance to test himself?

Also, as regards attracting players, that could well be right, but those players will come if we continue to improve, and Pardew can prove himself able to step up to the next level. Also, I think Pardew would be more willing to rotate the squad more than Harry does, and give a chance to players like GDS, Rose, and our young guns.

Of all the managers out there, there are plenty I would put ahead of Pardew, but we've got to be realistic about our chances of landing someone like Mourhino. Even if he (or another manager of equal quality to him) was prepared to come to Spurs, we'd have competition from three or four giant clubs, with far more resources than us.

All I'm saying is, that if we ended up with Pardew, I wouldn't be too worried, even if I was a little disappointed that we didn't get Mourhino or Hiddink or Pepe Guardiola.

 

[superal]

I think our best option in the prem is moyes! Not sure if he can take us to the next level though! Think we need a manager who is not only tactically sound,but also capable of attracting players

 

[O.Spurcat]

Spurcat..what with your links to our club..who would you suggest and who do you think the club seriously will go for...or at least what type of man.

Dona..... I have no more idea on this than you do. I have always assumed that the club would be looking towards trying to bring in someone with considerable European experience. I don't think Levy will give the job to a novice or even an up and coming guy. I think he'll go for experience, but I emphasise that it only my own personal view. Whenever I attempt to bring the subject up at the club, it gets brushed aside, so I know no more than you.

Interestingly, there is a guy who posts frequently on JA606, who seems to know his stuff and is also involved with the club, claims to have staked a £5k bet that Tim Sherwood is lined up to be Harrys' replacement. It seems to me, an extraordianary large amount of money to be staked on something like this, but he is adamant he is close to Levy and hence his bet.

Make of that what you will, but I think he'll look for someone with the pedigree of the likes of Advocaat etc.

 

[Roo]

I hear what people are saying about Pardew's lack of experience in the CL, but let's not forget that it was also Harry's first taste of CL footy. It's a Catch 22 scenario, because how is he going to get the experience of CL footy if he's not given the chance to test himself?

Also, as regards attracting players, that could well be right, but those players will come if we continue to improve, and Pardew can prove himself able to step up to the next level. Also, I think Pardew would be more willing to rotate the squad more than Harry does, and give a chance to players like GDS, Rose, and our young guns.

Of all the managers out there, there are plenty I would put ahead of Pardew, but we've got to be realistic about our chances of landing someone like Mourhino. Even if he (or another manager of equal quality to him) was prepared to come to Spurs, we'd have competition from three or four giant clubs, with far more resources than us.

All I'm saying is, that if we ended up with Pardew, I wouldn't be too worried, even if I was a little disappointed that we didn't get Mourhino or Hiddink or Pepe Guardiola.

the difference HIAG, is that when harry took over, it was to get us out of a very bad situation. he then earnt the right to manage in the CL because he took us there. that's a big difference from someone just walking into a job and being gifted with that level of football, when they haven't got the experience.

right now, we have to weigh up our risk vs our reward as we try to progress, what ever that might be that ends up benefiting the club. every day we have chats on here about new players that we're linked with. all of us have different (but good) views on who we need to sign. we often speak of players that are over priced or too old etc etc, and this applies to pardew in the same way. certain players cost too much and we will say "it's too much of a risk as they are unproven in the prem" etc etc. with pardew that same risk applies, but with different factors, such as experience. we're at astage where a manager like him doesn't have enough going for him just yet, and therefore the risk is too much for the potential reward.

I wouldn't be worried either, if we had pardew. i'd back the club's decision. however, we should not be aiming for someone like him, as it's a step sideways (potentially backwards), and not a big courageous leap forwards, which is what we need right now in all aspects of the club. stadium, players, manager... whatever.

just my opinion though mate.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

If there's any truth behind that bet and the inside info SC, then I'd suggest that Levy may be considering a return to the DOF system, assuming Redknapp departs.
Seems very unlikely otherwise.