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I would see that as a linear move, not a bad one, just linear. I'd put Pardrew, Harry and Moyes in the same "bracket". I would love for us to move for a step up in terms of management Hiddink or Mourinho. With the right manager we could iron out those stupid loses we have and truly challenge for the PL.
Cheers for that Spurcat..and i hope it isnt the likes of sherwood..the job is far too big for him...i like yourself think we need someone with experience...it is vital we have someone in who can attempt to take us onto another level..one of getting in the top 4 year in year out would be a good start.
Good argument for Alan Perdew there Hoddle, you had almost convinced me too. He (Alan Perdew) is, no doupt, a good managers and he is another local (Venables, Rednapp etc.,) but I think the F**k-ups at both Chelsea and Klanfield are making it far to easy for the likes of Pardew, Lambert, Moyes and Purlis to look good.
Spurs should not be taking the 'Chance-Card' at this stage on a manager that has not got the right experience IMO.
The 'Next Step' has been mentioned several times on this board. None of the afore mentioned managers would even be considered at places like Chelsea ManU or ManArab. Those clubs have serious Champioms League aspirations and so should we.
Spurs should not be taking the 'Chance-Card' at this stage on a manager that has not got the right experience IMO.
The 'Next Step' has been mentioned several times on this board. None of the afore mentioned managers would even be considered at places like Chelsea ManU or ManArab. Those clubs have serious Champioms League aspirations and so should we.
If we're going to take a step up from 'Arry, the following managers (which are realistic targets) should be on Levy's list:
Louis van Gaal (currently unattached)
Carlo Ancelotti (possibly at PSG for a single-season payday)
Guus Hiddink (Signed an 18-month deal with Anzhi, but Russian clubs have itchy trigger fingers)
Didier Deschamps (free at the end of the season)
Laurent Blanc (free after Euro 2012)
All of them can be relied on to not just steady the ship, but to take the team forward. There's a few others that could offer something (Felix Magath, Dick Advocaat) and a couple that would be a potential gamble (Villas Boas, Slaven Bilic), but those on the above list are all within our means and could be open to the job.
Louis van Gaal (currently unattached)
Carlo Ancelotti (possibly at PSG for a single-season payday)
Guus Hiddink (Signed an 18-month deal with Anzhi, but Russian clubs have itchy trigger fingers)
Didier Deschamps (free at the end of the season)
Laurent Blanc (free after Euro 2012)
All of them can be relied on to not just steady the ship, but to take the team forward. There's a few others that could offer something (Felix Magath, Dick Advocaat) and a couple that would be a potential gamble (Villas Boas, Slaven Bilic), but those on the above list are all within our means and could be open to the job.
completely agree with nearly all of that Bajan.
- Moyes, to me doesn't fall in the same catrgory of the "managers that look better". i think he's genuinely very good. The only thing that concerns me is why he's been at Everton for so long with no money, when he could have moved to numerous clubs with in the last 10 years? some could question his ambition.
HBIC, 3 out of 5 of those mentioned as "the ones that should be on levy's list", haven't actually managed in the premiership. i'm not saying they wouldn't do well, but are you happy to take that risk after what we've witnessed in the past? - and more importantly, what we've recently seen at chelsea. it frightens the **** out of me, if i'm completely honest.
Waiting for the right deal, I think. He's already put a lot of time in to Everton to build them into his team and I think he'd have felt that he stood more chance of making it with Everton than skipping town to say Newcastle or Villa where he'd be starting again. We'd offer a rather different prospect, however.
I don't hold that against Moyes. I believe he's an honourable man who belives it's right for him to repay Bill Kenwrights loyalty to him , by sticking with Everton. I like Moyes as a bloke, but as next manager of Spurs, then not for me thanks, but I do understand why some would choose him.
A fair point, albeit one that implies Rafa Benitez is a safer pair of hands to put our team into than Van Gaal, Deschamps or Blanc.
The problem is that managers who do have Premier League experience that can be considered realistic targets for us are considered this for a reason - either because they failed somewhere else, or because Chelsea sacked them. Moyes is the only manager in the Premier League wwe can consider attainable that stands out, given his experience and is capable of getting Everton playing good stuff yet retaining some steely resilience to them (whilst the likes of Lambert, Martinez and Rodgers lack experience of working with "bigger" clubs at this point in their career)
Yes, there are managers whose inexperience saw them crash and burn (i.e. Gross, Santini, Ramos), but plenty have come in and done alright - Wenger, Mourinho, Ancelotti, Mancini et al.
haha, very true on benitez! god.. this is worrying.
agreed that all four of the final managers you've mentioned are good managers. unfortunately i can;t get out of my head, the fact that mourinho had millions to spend and mancini has a bottomless pit!
who the hell are we going to get?
thanks to the Levy/Harry partnership and as far as Spurs is concerned., we now have a greater choice of experienced characters for Harry's current position as manager.
We can now expect to have 0ne or Two big names, paying particular attention to the post as 'General First Team Manager'.
SHOULD that position become vacant.
Personally, hope it doesn't come to this, and that he stays.
We can now expect to have 0ne or Two big names, paying particular attention to the post as 'General First Team Manager'.
SHOULD that position become vacant.
Personally, hope it doesn't come to this, and that he stays.
Even if Harry doesn't take the England job I'd be inclined maybe to replace him unless he wins something. As has already been stated Pardew isn't high profile enough. I'd give Ancelotti and Capello first refusals. It's difficult to find an ex England manager who has been successful in the PL at club level but I think Capello might be and Ancelotti wants to return. Moyes and Pulis would be backward steps. It's not all gloom,we could do worse than Capello although at 65 he wouldn't last long.
Capello would be fantastic I agree Thor, but might be too expensive for Levy.
By the way Levy seems to get on better with fluent English speaking types.
By the way Levy seems to get on better with fluent English speaking types.
No more than Ancelotti or the other big names I don't think Bajan. Trouble is ex England managers tend to fade into obscurity.
the more i think about it...the more i think AVB would fulfill his potential at a club like ours if we want to install someone with a long term aim..with the immediate aim being top 4 each season.
cant be easy working for Abramovich...even Mourinhio could not hack it.
plus our club is classy i dont think we would allow such a thing as 'player power' where the likes of Terry,fat kunt and drogba undermine the gaffer.
i think he would be allowed to express himself well and he also has pulling power i think to some extent and could add a few of his ex Porto players to bolster us( i think there is a few good ones)...just a thought.
cant be easy working for Abramovich...even Mourinhio could not hack it.
plus our club is classy i dont think we would allow such a thing as 'player power' where the likes of Terry,fat kunt and drogba undermine the gaffer.
i think he would be allowed to express himself well and he also has pulling power i think to some extent and could add a few of his ex Porto players to bolster us( i think there is a few good ones)...just a thought.
They have actually been replaced with equal or better players, alongside further additions.
Nolan out, Cabaye in (improvement)
Carroll out, Ba in (improvement)
Barton out, and whilst there was no direct replacement purchased for him, we have Ben Arfa back after over a year out who is a far better winger
Enrique out, Santon in (about even I'd say, with Enrique being marginally better)
Add in the few other additions we've had to add depth, and the side is far superior to the one we had last season. I'm actually shocked to think back of when Nolan was our first choice CM, as whilst he was a good goalscorer, his CM play was frankly quite poor and not a mark on Cabaye's.
My point in mentioning that is that Pardew isn't necessarily a miracle worker. He does have quite a damn good first-choice XI at his disposal when all our players are fit, especially with Cisse. I do think Chelsea are underachieving which is why we've caught them up, and I personally think we have a better XI than Liverpool, I really do.
As for Pardew, he's a manager who has it all imo. Great tactics, great man management and a great PR guy. The way he speaks to the media is what I'm especially impressed with. He just comes across as someone who really has his head screwed on.
He isn't perfect of course, and does make mistakes, but if he had control of a team with Spurs' quality, I have no doubt at all that he could do a cracking job.
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Let's face it, if Pardew carries on the way he's doing with the Toon, he'll be England manager one day.