Do you ever get the feeling that you are outnumbered
Welcome to the club mate, I made the mistake of saying I preferred Green to Wagstaff the other day!!!
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Welcome to the club mate, I made the mistake of saying I preferred Green to Wagstaff the other day!!!
SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious
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In fact you could question Taylor's defending on three of them goals.
The second one he should have been in on Forte (lack of pace?)
The third one he missed several oppurtunities to clear before the Hamer blow.
The fourth one Forte lost his marker (Taylor)
The second one he should have been in on Forte (lack of pace?)
The third one he missed several oppurtunities to clear before the Hamer blow.
The fourth one Forte lost his marker (Taylor)
While I agree Hamer needs to be dropped neither he nor anyone else should be made a scapegoat. In recent games we've been second to the ball right across midfield, and it's not just one player. In fact it's been happening so much that it's really bothered me more than any other aspect of our play.
Maybe if you stopped being awkward, you wouldn't be outnumbered
It would be boring if we all agreed. And if we could all spell awkward correctly !
I voted Hamer!
I don't rate him as the top keeper some say he is BUT! I think it is an area we need to streghten, Sulli doesn't do it for me, to drop Hamer on the back of one game where he was beaten by a worldy and made a freak cockup and 45 minutes of total madness by both him and the WHOLE team would be unfair. If the Notts County game had come on the back of 3 clean sheets, would we be calling for his blood?
What message does that send out? 45 poor minutes and your dropped? That spreeds a culture of fear, there is a diffrence of playing for a place due to pressure from the squad for your shirt and being dropped for one poor performance. There is enough pressure on the team to get over the line, we shouldn't add to it my suggesting scatter gun changes after every blip. Thats all those 2 games where, blips!
I don't rate him as the top keeper some say he is BUT! I think it is an area we need to streghten, Sulli doesn't do it for me, to drop Hamer on the back of one game where he was beaten by a worldy and made a freak cockup and 45 minutes of total madness by both him and the WHOLE team would be unfair. If the Notts County game had come on the back of 3 clean sheets, would we be calling for his blood?
What message does that send out? 45 poor minutes and your dropped? That spreeds a culture of fear, there is a diffrence of playing for a place due to pressure from the squad for your shirt and being dropped for one poor performance. There is enough pressure on the team to get over the line, we shouldn't add to it my suggesting scatter gun changes after every blip. Thats all those 2 games where, blips!
Do you ever get the feeling that you are outnumbered
Yes Stu, it's one of the benefits of living in a democracy...
Does anyone want a lift up to Scunny?
I was going to get the train, but the motor seems to be running okay now (touch wood - no rude puns needed!).
I was going to get the train, but the motor seems to be running okay now (touch wood - no rude puns needed!).
Never mind, who should be in goal at Scunthorpe; the question should be, ....why is Hamer even at the club for consideration for the game? I cannot recall a keeper worse than him in my 25 years of watching Charlton!!
Regardless of how poor the defence was on Saturday (and they were!), the Taylor/Hamer cock-up was a big mistake on Hamers part - as a goalkeeper you DO NOT just stand on your line and wait for the ball to come to you when there's an attacker running towards the box with blistering speed (regardless of whether he's being marked or not)! His job is to take control of the box and to catch the ****ing ball when its loose instead of just waiting for it to come to him.
I'm still furious about the game, but even in the bigger picture, he's been shocking all season - Bury at home, Orient away, Colchester at home and Notts County at home, he's made game changing mistakes in all of them, added to all the minor mistakes he's made in other games.
It says a lot when the only good thing you can say about a goalkeeper is that he's a better attacking player than defensive (I'm referring of course to the accuracy of his goalkicks).
Personally I don't rate Sullivan either but I'd much rather see him play on Saturday.
I'm still furious about the game, but even in the bigger picture, he's been shocking all season - Bury at home, Orient away, Colchester at home and Notts County at home, he's made game changing mistakes in all of them, added to all the minor mistakes he's made in other games.
It says a lot when the only good thing you can say about a goalkeeper is that he's a better attacking player than defensive (I'm referring of course to the accuracy of his goalkicks).
Personally I don't rate Sullivan either but I'd much rather see him play on Saturday.
This is really odd. The posts on here are pretty much all anti-Hamer but the poll vote is getting closer!!!!
Bit scary that noone else is prepared to come out and admit it though !!
I bet they do after he has a blinder on Saturday !!
Just voted for Hamer.
Sullivan isn't terrible, but I still think Hamer is the better option.
Plus, I remember the Leyton Orient game on New Year's Eve - Sullivan was terrible (admittedly, so was the rest of the defence that night)
Sullivan isn't terrible, but I still think Hamer is the better option.
Plus, I remember the Leyton Orient game on New Year's Eve - Sullivan was terrible (admittedly, so was the rest of the defence that night)
Sullivan let in one badly deflected shot? and played behind a team with only 9 outfield players! Terrible?
SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious
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Was no one impressed by Suli in the run of games he had last season? Don't want to bleat on about him, but I thought he really helped steady the ship when we were conceding for fun.
i'd say sulli is steady. you know what your gonna get. but there's not a great deal of potential. i think hamer was signed as one we'd grow into a proper keeper, but not quite be there just yet. still think we should play sulli till we get over the line and then put hamer back in.