Mags embarrassing themselves yet again

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Essayyeffcee said:
Taking the red and white specs off and putting them on the table in the corner why would any serious player want to sign for them at the minute?

For a start, players are leaving - Gordon's gone, Trippier has gone. There's stories that Tonali, Hall, Wissa, Waltemade and Elanga want to leave. There was speculation that Howe may be sacked towards the end of last season and it hasn't really been rebuffed, just announced that he's here for next season. They were the team that lost the most points from winning positions last season which suggests there's something wrong somewhere. Players want to play in Europe and they're not there next season. They didn't show any real fight in the 2 derby games and their nearest rivals have now surpassed then after 8 years in lower leagues and are now in Europe themselves. The hierarchy are quibbling over money with perspective signings and those signings have gone into play for other teams. - Trafford to Man City, Ekitike to Liverpool and now Munoz to Liverpool - that hardly sounds like a club that are pushing the boat out to get a player there.

Now putting those red and white specs back on. I hope it continues for a long time!
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Good post and nothing but common sense.

The Mags, despite winning virtually nowt, have always thought they were a big club. Keegan reinforced that idea and playing in Europe made them believe they were world class. When the Saudis bought the club they, and their owners to be fair to them, believed they were unstoppable.

Oops.

They’re now finding out the geographical reality that they’re seen as a stag night city too far from London. We all love the NE but we’re realistic enough to know that we’ll always be a big town on the far NE coast that has spirit and heart.

Newcastle isn’t the glamorous shopping/clubbing/jet setting capital of anything except Tyneside. I’ve said it before, they’re the most entertaining neighbours we could wish for …

… the kind of people who have a ten year old BMW, but never gives it a proper overhaul. Instead they change the grille & wheels and put a meaningless private plate on it.

Meanwhile the Sunderland fan keeps their’s well maintained and concentrates on the mechanics, not just the appearance.

Only one is heading for a breakdown <laugh>
 
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Smug in Boots said:
Good post and nothing but common sense.

The Mags, despite winning virtually nowt, have always thought they were a big club. Keegan reinforced that idea and playing in Europe made them believe they were world class. When the Saudis bought the club they, and their owners to be fair to them, believed they were unstoppable.

Oops.

They’re now finding out the geographical reality that they’re seen as a stag night city too far from London. We all love the NE but we’re realistic enough to know that we’ll always be a big town on the far NE coast that has spirit and heart.

Newcastle isn’t the glamorous shopping/clubbing/jet setting capital of anything except Tyneside. I’ve said it before, they’re the most entertaining neighbours we could wish for …

… the kind of people who have a ten year old BMW, but never gives it a proper overhaul. Instead they change the grille & wheels and put a meaningless private plate on it.

Meanwhile the Sunderland fan keeps their’s well maintained and concentrates on the mechanics, not just the appearance.

Only one is heading for a breakdown <laugh>
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On holiday at the moment and we’ve become friendly with a couple that live just down the road from us. We only got talking because I heard a distinct NE accent. Anyway, a lovely couple, even if he is a Mag. I’ll give him his due though. He was at pains to say that we (as SAFC supporters) would rightly acknowledge that NUFC are a big club in the scheme of things, that Sunderland are just doing everything right. He’s not convinced with anything at Newcastle at the moment and he actually said that Sunderland deserve to be where they are.
 
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Evil Jimmy Krankie said:
On holiday at the moment and we’ve become friendly with a couple that live just down the road from us. We only got talking because I heard a distinct NE accent. Anyway, a lovely couple, even if he is a Mag. I’ll give him his due though. He was at pains to say that we (as SAFC supporters) would rightly acknowledge that NUFC are a big club in the scheme of things, that Sunderland are just doing everything right. He’s not convinced with anything at Newcastle at the moment and he actually said that Sunderland deserve to be where they are.
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Stuff him and bottle him mate.....an intelligent Mag....very rare! Could be worth a lot very soon. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
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have the mags actually 'lost' him?

there is a huge difference in talking to a lad and getting him interested to having him on the verge of signing for a club...leaves me wondering were they fully interested in the lad or was he a 'nice one' to fuel interest from the supporters, very easy to say they were talking to the lad but 'this is newcastle, would you like to sign for us' is an easy thing for a club to say but if the commitment is not there it means nowt.
 
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samwise_new said:
have the mags actually 'lost' him?

there is a huge difference in talking to a lad and getting him interested to having him on the verge of signing for a club...leaves me wondering were they fully interested in the lad or was he a 'nice one' to fuel interest from the supporters, very easy to say they were talking to the lad but 'this is newcastle, would you like to sign for us' is an easy thing for a club to say but if the commitment is not there it means nowt.
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This is how it went down. The so called richest club in the world could have had it wrapped up ages ago if theyd have just paid the 35m release clause in cash, but instead they haggled and offered 4.3m in add-ons. Embarrassing...

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Latest from Sky Sports News' Keith Downie:

Newcastle thought they had a deal for Victor Munoz before Liverpool swooped in to sign the Osasuna winger.

Newcastle had a £33.3m fee - an initial £29m plus £4.3m in add-ons - accepted by the LaLiga club.

The 22-year-old had agreed personal terms and told Newcastle that he wanted to come, while agent fees were also agreed.

Newcastle had the wheels in motion for a medical over in the US and felt they had a deal in place.

But they were instructed by the player's representatives to wait over the last 24 hours.

Liverpool had always been at the table for the Spain international, so they did not come in at the last minute, but Newcastle had been told the player wanted to sign for them.

Newcastle are now licking their wounds inflicted by Liverpool again after what happened with Alexander Isak and Hugo Ekitike last summer, and are trying to get to the bottom of what happened in the last 24 hours.
 
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Teessidemackem said:
This is how it went down. The so called richest club in the world could have had it wrapped up ages ago if theyd have just paid the 35m release clause in cash, but instead they haggled and offered 4.3m in add-ons. Embarrassing...

signing...​

Latest from Sky Sports News' Keith Downie:

Newcastle thought they had a deal for Victor Munoz before Liverpool swooped in to sign the Osasuna winger.

Newcastle had a £33.3m fee - an initial £29m plus £4.3m in add-ons - accepted by the LaLiga club.

The 22-year-old had agreed personal terms and told Newcastle that he wanted to come, while agent fees were also agreed.

Newcastle had the wheels in motion for a medical over in the US and felt they had a deal in place.

But they were instructed by the player's representatives to wait over the last 24 hours.

Liverpool had always been at the table for the Spain international, so they did not come in at the last minute, but Newcastle had been told the player wanted to sign for them.

Newcastle are now licking their wounds inflicted by Liverpool again after what happened with Alexander Isak and Hugo Ekitike last summer, and are trying to get to the bottom of what happened in the last 24 hours.
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Victor saw the videos and messages from Geordie Josh and Lewis and was like nah
 
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Evil Jimmy Krankie said:
On holiday at the moment and we’ve become friendly with a couple that live just down the road from us. We only got talking because I heard a distinct NE accent. Anyway, a lovely couple, even if he is a Mag. I’ll give him his due though. He was at pains to say that we (as SAFC supporters) would rightly acknowledge that NUFC are a big club in the scheme of things, that Sunderland are just doing everything right. He’s not convinced with anything at Newcastle at the moment and he actually said that Sunderland deserve to be where they are.
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The only thing I would argue is that I would never acknowledge them as a big club
 
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Teessidemackem said:
This is how it went down. The so called richest club in the world could have had it wrapped up ages ago if theyd have just paid the 35m release clause in cash, but instead they haggled and offered 4.3m in add-ons. Embarrassing...

signing...​

Latest from Sky Sports News' Keith Downie:

Newcastle thought they had a deal for Victor Munoz before Liverpool swooped in to sign the Osasuna winger.

Newcastle had a £33.3m fee - an initial £29m plus £4.3m in add-ons - accepted by the LaLiga club.

The 22-year-old had agreed personal terms and told Newcastle that he wanted to come, while agent fees were also agreed.

Newcastle had the wheels in motion for a medical over in the US and felt they had a deal in place.

But they were instructed by the player's representatives to wait over the last 24 hours.

Liverpool had always been at the table for the Spain international, so they did not come in at the last minute, but Newcastle had been told the player wanted to sign for them.

Newcastle are now licking their wounds inflicted by Liverpool again after what happened with Alexander Isak and Hugo Ekitike last summer, and are trying to get to the bottom of what happened in the last 24 hours.
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What happened was the player and his club had a better offer......deal with it you Big Heeeds!
 
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Teessidemackem said:
Just wait till Hall & Tonali leave, and we sign a couple of unused players from Bournemouth to soften the blow, but fans will love having Willock in the team. In Eddie we trust eh? Bottom by Xmas meanwhile that noisy team down the road get better and better.
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At first these glitches were a bit of fun and Isak could be shrugged off as a mercenary. But now it's becoming quite serious for Newcastle and their fans must be seriously concerned. It's gone past the point when it can be dismissed as 'a deliberate and well considered overhaul' because too many players want out and too few want to sign.

The Saudis simply aren't taking the club seriously because all they need is TV coverage, which even Coventry or Forest would get, with a large gullible fanbase who'll do as they're told and not dare to protest. Lets be blunt here, if Ashley had finished bottom half, lost two derbies, sold Isak, Anderson and Gordon, missed out on Europe and kept Howe the city centre would be trashed by now.

This is turning into a feeding frenzy for Sunderland supporters and anyone else who wants endless cheap laughs ...

... I honestly don't know how they'll cope with the humiliation.
 
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Teessidemackem said:
This is how it went down. The so called richest club in the world could have had it wrapped up ages ago if theyd have just paid the 35m release clause in cash, but instead they haggled and offered 4.3m in add-ons. Embarrassing...

signing...​

Latest from Sky Sports News' Keith Downie:

Newcastle thought they had a deal for Victor Munoz before Liverpool swooped in to sign the Osasuna winger.

Newcastle had a £33.3m fee - an initial £29m plus £4.3m in add-ons - accepted by the LaLiga club.

The 22-year-old had agreed personal terms and told Newcastle that he wanted to come, while agent fees were also agreed.

Newcastle had the wheels in motion for a medical over in the US and felt they had a deal in place.

But they were instructed by the player's representatives to wait over the last 24 hours.

Liverpool had always been at the table for the Spain international, so they did not come in at the last minute, but Newcastle had been told the player wanted to sign for them.

Newcastle are now licking their wounds inflicted by Liverpool again after what happened with Alexander Isak and Hugo Ekitike last summer, and are trying to get to the bottom of what happened in the last 24 hours.
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That apparently what happened with the Elanga deal last summer, they agreed a fee but haggled over installments and add ones enough that Forest were going to pull out. The mags then had to pay pretty much on Forest's terms.
 
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Smug in Boots said:
At first these glitches were a bit of fun and Isak could be shrugged off as a mercenary. But now it's becoming quite serious for Newcastle and their fans must be seriously concerned. It's gone past the point when it can be dismissed as 'a serious considered overhaul' because too many players want out and too few want to sign.

The Saudis simply aren't taking the club seriously because all they need is TV coverage, which even Coventry or Forest would get, with a large gullible fanbase who'll do as they're told and not dare to protest. Lets be blunt here, if Ashley had finished bottom half, lost two derbies, sold Isak, Anderson and Gordon, missed out on Europe and kept Howe the city centre would be trashed by now.

This is turning into a feeding frenzy for Sunderland supporters and anyone else who wants endless cheap laughs ...

... I honestly don't know how they'll cope with the humiliation.
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<laugh> <laugh>
 
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