Training Ground Updates/Development

[TigerJools]

I have no idea what the plans are for it's development. I'd be interested to find out.

From what I can remember of the layout of the blocks, I don't see why it wouldn't be feasible to convert to affordable housing stock.

Hull University sold the Lawns to MCR Property Group who specialise in converting industrial buildings into accommodation. Whether this be proper apartments or bedsits I don't know. I believe the land that didn't have Ferens Hall and The Lawns on it was put back up for sale.

 

[originalminority]

Just knocking down high rise flats built at the same time.

Yes, they were taking down the first of the three on Boothferry Estate today, its like a 60 year cycle, house should be built to last longer?

 

[BlackAndAmberGambler]

Anyone know what 40 acres of land costs?

 

[The Omega Man]

Yes, they were taking down the first of the three on Boothferry Estate today, its like a 60 year cycle, house should be built to last longer?

Practical refurbishment is very difficult in these buildings.
In 2010 two firemen Jim Shears and Alan Bannon died in Shirley Towers, a tower block. They were trapped by the wiring and pipework that had been installed as part of a refurbishment.
Grenfell Towers a tragic loss of 72 lives, were tenants safety concerns were ignored.
These buildings need replacing by safe homes.

 

[TIGERSCAVE]

Practical refurbishment is very difficult in these buildings.
In 2010 two firemen Jim Shears and Alan Bannon died in Shirley Towers, a tower block. They were trapped by the wiring and pipework that had been installed as part of a refurbishment.
Grenfell Towers a tragic loss of 72 lives, were tenants safety concerns were ignored.
These buildings need replacing by safe homes.

Grenfell is due for demolition imminently TOM

 

[Drew]

It's Grade II* listed as an outstanding example of mid-century modernist design. I haven't seen it up close for years, so don't know what state it's in (mid-century concrete doesn't do well if it's not maintained) but it was award winning when it was built and needs to be preserved.

It also needs to be used however.

There's a parallel with a block of student accommodation near me in Newcastle: Henderson Hall which is also Grade II* listed. (The design isn't similar but the listed status and the situation is). It stood empty for years like The Lawns, then one night it mysteriously caught fire and was extensively damaged. Everyone then thought it would be torn down. But no. Newcastle University were ordered to rebuild it, which they are doing at great expense.

It was an unused University accommodation block. There are currently no firm plans for what to do with it when it's complete. The university website says 'Discussions about the future use of the building are continuing.'

I’m usually for protecting buildings and I’m sure that The Lawns is lovely. But I and I suspect most of the people of Hull have never even seen it.

There doesn’t seem to be much point in protecting buildings that haven’t been particularly visible to the wider population. I don’t think many will miss it.

 

[Plum]

I’m usually for protecting buildings and I’m sure that The Lawns is lovely. But I and I suspect most of the people of Hull have never even seen it.

There doesn’t seem to be much point in protecting buildings that haven’t been particularly visible to the wider population. I don’t think many will miss it.

I agree, while all this time the Lord Line building, which actually means a lot to Hull and it's population is left to rot.

 

[Ernie Shackleton]

I’m usually for protecting buildings and I’m sure that The Lawns is lovely. But I and I suspect most of the people of Hull have never even seen it.

There doesn’t seem to be much point in protecting buildings that haven’t been particularly visible to the wider population. I don’t think many will miss it.

Grade II listed status is dependent on a building having specific architectural or historical interest. It has nothing to do with how many people have seen it or not.

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

Anyone know what 40 acres of land costs?

86.5 acres plus a six bedroom mansion, outbuildings, two cottages and padlocks, offers around £3.25m. In Tickton. As mentioned before on here.
We have just been offered £5m for Joseph. Allegedly.

 

[BlackAndAmberGambler]

86.5 acres plus a six bedroom mansion, outbuildings, two cottages and padlocks, offers around £3.25m. In Tickton. As mentioned before on here.

So the Lawns would be around £2.5m?

 

[Plum]

Grade II listed status is dependent on a building having specific architectural or historical interest. It has nothing to do with how many people have seen it or not.

Is listed status ever reviewed? Once granted can it be reversed? I wonder who nominated Lawns for listed status? The more I think about it the more murky it seems to be, jobs for the boys and all that, unelected bodies deciding what's good for us.
But there again I always did like a good conspiracy...

 

[TwoWrights]

86.5 acres plus a six bedroom mansion, outbuildings, two cottages and padlocks*, offers around £3.25m. In Tickton. As mentioned before on here.
We have just been offered £5m for Joseph. Allegedly.

* Have you put a bid in for the padlocks?
Once an ironmonger...


It's our time.

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

So the Lawns would be around £2.5m?

The Lawns are in a very prominent position in the middle of residential Cottingham. The Tickton estate is 80+ acres of paddocks in the countryside.

 

[BlackAndAmberGambler]

I don’t know the ins and outs of any of it but isn’t the Lawns technically brown field land?

 

[originallambrettaman]

Why on earth would the club pay £3.25m to buy a knackered five bed house and some stables, when they can just buy 100 acres of farmland for around £1m?

Edit - Cocked this up and put 100,000 acres rather than 100 acres.

 

[originalminority]

I agree, while all this time the Lord Line building, which actually means a lot to Hull and it's population is left to rot.

Hull City's Edwardian Spion Kop terrace has been left to rot under the brambles a lot longer than the Lord Line and should be listed and saved first!

 

[Plum]

Hull City's Edwardian Spion Kop terrace has been left to rot under the brambles a lot longer than the Lord Line and should be listed and saved first!

Maybe you're right, has an application been put in?

 

[TwoWrights]

Why on earth would the club pay £3.25m to buy a knackered five bed house and some stables, when they can just buy 100,000 acres of farmland for around £1m?

It's our time.

 

[Help!]

Anyone know what 40 acres of land costs?

I agree with most of the responses you’ve already had, but to actually answer your question round here at present you’re talking c£10K an acre for farmland that doesn’t have much prospect of being granted planning approval for much else. That very much doesn’t include The Lawns, which is begging to be developed.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/158572124

 

[balkan tiger]

Why on earth would the club pay £3.25m to buy a knackered five bed house and some stables, when they can just buy 100,000 acres of farmland for around £1m?

Where's that then?

Agricultural land is not £10 an acre anywhere.