We don't know what the club is doing at the moment as there are no comms - which for me implies that something is going on that needs to be resolved internally before they can talk about it publicly.
What Should Happen To Tonda Eckert Now?
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I doubt clubs will care at all about that if they are getting a player they consider good on a free
Agree that I doubt it will happen, only players I can see trying to do it is if they have interest from a team they want to move to and we are standing in their way because of fee we are asking for. Would still likely come to an agreement where we still get a fee in that scenario
The figures that have been talked about in the media don’t sound outrageous. Seen around £20m talked about for Jander/Leo/Charles. Nothing like the figures that were being talked about last summer. Sign of going into last year of parachute payments, £20m is a very good fee for a Champ team
You'd think/hope that's why there is silence but it really wouldn't surprise me under this lot if they're just hoping it'll all blow over before announcing a 5% season ticket rise the day the world cup starts.
If players could do this, which I’m not sure they actually could, why wouldn’t all of them do it?
Why only 2 or 3?
Can’t see players have grounds for suing…no guarantee we’d have won play off anyway. Non-starter.
Can’t see club sacking Tonda when he is undergoing investigation. Could save money to sit and wait in case FA gives us just cause. And it’s possible they’d like to keep him for another season.
Can’t see club sacking Tonda when he is undergoing investigation. Could save money to sit and wait in case FA gives us just cause. And it’s possible they’d like to keep him for another season.
My stance is beginning to soften a bit, I think. Ultimately if Solak and the players want to continue with him, and the FA/EFL don't come forward with additional punishments, I can see the logic in the continuity of Spors/Eckert and blocking out the noise from neutrals/media
It’s not suing but an article claimed that in most players contracts there is a clause about gross misconduct of a club that impacts the player would entitle the player to terminate their contract. The article was alluding to this whole thing possibly meaning the players could trigger this clause, and they were getting legal advice on it now.
Only working on the assumption we would only get big money for 2 or 3 .
It’s irrelevant now , as I agree with fran .
Now I agree with St Magic .
No one on here I would think. Only the FA, it could take minutes, days, weeks or even years...
As a fan I don’t think we can make that leap. Only those involved in the spying will know whether there was ‘coercion’.
I’m now Tonda in, if it hadn’t been for him we would be nowhere the playoffs. We could be celebrating championship survival now! If the players will play for him I say we keep him. I don’t care what others think.
Your highlight was a little out of context as I wasn't stating he IS a bully, just that IF he's found to be then he shouldn't continue in the role.
I agree with the bulling but I think we need context. Bullies are very insecure people. A young newly promoted manager who used to do the job of the analyst may feel insecure and have imposter syndrome over his job. Not right, but may explain the ‘bullying’, as well as the language and the fact that he is awkward at the best of times.
The most successful manager in English club football was a bully.
I do agree, but that was to his multi million pound players and not junior staff. And he should have known better.
Definitely - but the onus is on the club to clear all that up internally and not have done out in the wild and offer the support needed, where needed.
It's a huge step from someone argued a bit about a task with a staff member to someone is actually an abusive boss and it needs to be closed out properly by the club.
Said it before, Tonda in. He's done whatever he was taught to do in Germany, and he's made a mistake doing it over here. If the players still have faith in him and can be convinced to stay, imagine a Tonda with a point to prove and a debt to repay. Why shoot ourselves in the foot to comply with the court of public opinion. Obviously, the law will have something to say, and ultimately be the key influence on the chances of it happening. As usual, it's the hope that kills you.
Just checked in and it currently sits at a lowly 46.2% to sack him! Good work everyone.
Just goes to show how your emotions can change over the course of a few days!
As I've said before, stick with him, fine or no fine, Tonda is almost certainly better than anyone else we would get and we need to look after ourselves!
I completely agree with this. We’ve done wrong as a club, but we shouldn’t shoot ourselves in the foot as a result. Tonda has given us a season we’ll never forget for all sorts of reasons and he got the players to gel as a team better than any of our managers have for a long time. Barring an FA ban, we should reprimand him but stick with him and rebuild.
Kind of.
Football, like music, like most celeb adjacent jobs, are (rightly or wrongly) incredibly competitive to get into. The people that will survive in that environment are the types of people that aren't going to be arsed, or have enough backbone to take it if you have a demanding boss, or if you're called a c*nt now and again. Because you need that level of resilience to succeed. If you don't have that, there's a thousand other interns etc that will be keen to take your position.
Also, "bullying" is an emotive term, and one not actually used in The EFL report. It's all about context. Was it Salt that complained about that, or was it Taylor (who was sacked for being ****, but is now calling 'foul' and saying he was bullied. It's a microscopic moment away from him saying it affected his mental health). The fella clearly has an axe to grind, and has ground it with the help of El Gibbon. He's also demonstrably not cut out for a job in a competitive environment like sport.
Not all jobs, nor all job environments are equal. You'll have a very different response to being called a name if you're a teacher to if you're a nightclub bouncer, or a copper, or a football player. Jeeze, if people want to cry foul because they got asked to work on Christmas Eve (ffs!) then try working with celebs.
So I would personally need a LOT more context if I was to suggest that Tonda is a 'bully'. And I really wouldn't give a monkeys if that accusation came from Taylor. He's a tough boss? Good. Grow a pair and get on with it.