Saints expelled from Play Offs by EFL

[thereisonlyoneno7]

Don’t want to worry you all but still no ticket info.

 

[tomw24]

Don’t want to worry you all but still no ticket info.

None for Hull either.

 

[LincolnSaint]

Did he give you the same look he gave you at Hull?

Yeah. I think he's a bit bored of being the grown up when we go to the football

 

[tomw24]

Hospitality has spoken!

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[Libby]

Who do we think actually did ID him then? I remember when this story first broke that someone had seen him on LinkedIn so why did it take a few more days to hit the press? Someone had leaked it from somewhere surely?

Yeah he was on LinkedIn.

 

[letissier86]

Having read that oneboro forum in its entirety, you can easily tell the 'ITK' poster is just an avid twitter/ reddit/ forum reader and making (ill)educated guesses.

I'm also fairly certain that the golf club can get in a lot of trouble here, I used to be the data controller for my last work and GDPR breaches are no joke. If it is as it seems, and the golf course has confirmed the identity via transaction records to support a vigilante investigation for a non legal matter and leaked through Gibson to the press. They could in theory be hit with a fine bigger than we are...

Fines can hit up to 4% of annual turnover when breaches involving personal data are involved. I work with health data which is more protected but consumer data still has protections. Legitimate interests in article 6 would allow the golf club to process the data for internal purposes which would not extend to the example above. This is not a public interest case that would allow that as there is no element of law enforcement.

 

[TheRealSaints]

I read somewhere, that Boro looked at Southampton FC online and seen him listed there.

Agree and I'm sure that is easy enough but my point is who leaked it to the press? That part could be (and probably would be) the GDPR breach.

 

[Gregm1988]

Fines can hit up to 4% of annual turnover when breaches involving personal data are involved. I work with health data which is more protected but consumer data still has protections. Legitimate interests in article 6 would allow the golf club to process the data for internal purposes which would not extend to the example above. This is not a public interest case that would allow that as there is no element of law enforcement.

Of the group or the company. Because 4% of group turnover could be enormous depending on what companies are in the group. Surely it would include and groups Boro is in as they have shared the data with them. Just amusing to think about that it all

 

[letissier86]

Of the group or the company. Because 4% of group turnover could be enormous depending on what companies are in the group. Surely it would include and groups Boro is in as they have shared the data with them. Just amusing to think about that it all

It would hit the parent company at the top ie the group

 

[Ian Thumwood]

Tonda made a statememt that he would comment once SFL had concluded rheir findings. I do not think this would be necessary if implicit in the spying.

I cannot see that Tonda is involved. It is his staff making decisions behind his back.

 

[Mostlymadeofwater]

Just a quick twopenneth. I spend part of my working life developing video based AI sports analytics. I know sporting benefit doesn't come into this, but the value generated from iphone footage from 150m+ is almost nil. You need better footage to understand and generate any dynamics. Equally the angle is too low to get 3 dimensions properly, so in terms of spying for any benefit other than seeing who is training it's almost non existent. Based on the clubs we've worked with, even where observing opposition is par for the course, they might do that to predict the teams, but even then, the depth of the planning at that level will look at multiple players in positions and tactical set ups and prepare accordingly.

Equally an intern with time off would be well versed to develop themselves by watching other teams. Understanding different training methods and seeing how different patterns translate to actions on the pitch. That's good self development. The timing is extremely unfortunate, however.

 

[Saints_Alive]

Just a quick twopenneth. I spend part of my working life developing video based AI sports analytics. I know sporting benefit doesn't come into this, but the value generated from iphone footage from 150m+ is almost nil. You need better footage to understand and generate any dynamics. Equally the angle is too low to get 3 dimensions properly, so in terms of spying for any benefit other than seeing who is training it's almost non existent. Based on the clubs we've worked with, even where observing opposition is par for the course, they might do that to predict the teams, but even then, the depth of the planning at that level will look at multiple players in positions and tactical set ups and prepare accordingly.

Equally an intern with time off would be well versed to develop themselves by watching other teams. Understanding different training methods and seeing how different patterns translate to actions on the pitch. That's good self development. The timing is extremely unfortunate, however.

Yes, we have been incredibly stupid risking everything for very little benefit. I think that the club should just say that the intern was sent up there to establish whether or not Hayden Hackney was training that day.

 

[letissier86]

Tonda made a statememt that he would comment once SFL had concluded rheir findings. I do not think this would be necessary if implicit in the spying.

I cannot see that Tonda is involved. It is his staff making decisions behind his back.

I found that comment quite telling.

 

[Le Tissier's Laces]

It's mad though, isn't it. In a court of *actual* law, this case would be thrown out immediately for one of the claimants attempting to adversely effect an outcome.

 

[thereisonlyoneno7]

It's mad though, isn't it. In a court of *actual* law, this case would be thrown out immediately for one of the claimants attempting to adversely effect an outcome.

And it may actually end up in one so they are doing themselves no favours.

 

[Gregm1988]

It would hit the parent company at the top ie the group

I assume it’s not part of the group as that would be a bit daft. But it’s amusing to think that if “Don Gibbo” tries to come at us for tens of millions in compensation we just tap a sign saying “4% turnover fine for GDPR” (or I think €10m if that figure is higher) and he scuttles away

Although I doubt there is a serious breach there and we are likely just spinning something small into something bigger like Boro have been doing this whole time. Except in this case it’s just us on a forum. In Boro’s case it’s the club hierarchy

 

[Gregm1988]

And it may actually end up in one so they are doing themselves no favours.

Especially in any future legal claim Gibson is planning. There will immediately be lots of grounds for our lawyers to suggest they’ve gone about this very badly and tried to conduct trial by media

 

[Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)]

Hull's statement is a little worrying. Us deleting our ticket info because of Hull was clearly a lie

 

[SR get out of my club]

I assume it’s not part of the group as that would be a bit daft. But it’s amusing to think that if “Don Gibbo” tries to come at us for tens of millions in compensation we just tap a sign saying “4% turnover fine for GDPR” (or I think €10m if that figure is higher) and he scuttles away

Although I doubt there is a serious breach there and we are likely just spinning something small into something bigger like Boro have been doing this whole time. Except in this case it’s just us on a forum. In Boro’s case it’s the club hierarchy

It doesn’t work like that perhaps.

If they have failed GDPR rules, we don’t need to report it as such as I’d imagine the regulator will be all over it.

 

[SR get out of my club]

Hull's statement is a little worrying. Us deleting our ticket info because of Hull was clearly a lie

What did they say?