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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months

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So, if Streeting is resigning, he has enough MPs supporting him. He wouldn't risk his career otherwise.

Strategically, from his POV, resigning asap and triggering a leadership race now is key for him. Rayner will not run I imagine until she is cleared for her tax offences, I think most believe she will be cleared and once she is she can really run with no monkey on her back.

On the other side, if they wait too long, Burnham is going to force himself into a seat and is overwhelmingly the most popular Labour MP both with members and on the left in general so Streeting won't stand a chance.

There's a dark horse, which is Ed Miliband, if he ran I genuinely think he could win through the members - his baggage is obviously he's already lost an election, but anyone who's followed politics in the past 10 years can probably tell Miliband has matured a lot since he was last Labour leader.

Of course, Starmer could beat Streeting.
 
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Welshie said:
So, if Streeting is resigning, he has enough MPs supporting him. He wouldn't risk his career otherwise.

Strategically, from his POV, resigning asap and triggering a leadership race now is key for him. Rayner will not run I imagine until she is cleared for her tax offences, I think most believe she will be cleared and once she is she can really run with no monkey on her back.

On the other side, if they wait too long, Burnham is going to force himself into a seat and is overwhelmingly the most popular Labour MP both with members and on the left in general so Streeting won't stand a chance.

There's a dark horse, which is Ed Miliband, if he ran I genuinely think he could win through the members - his baggage is obviously he's already lost an election, but anyone who's followed politics in the past 10 years can probably tell Miliband has matured a lot since he was last Labour leader.

Of course, Starmer could beat Streeting.
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Yup pretty much all of that in nutshell.

You can see it from all of their perspectives and if Streeting don't go for it now, he'll probably never get chance again in the near future.

I noticed Miliband lurking in the commons, standing down by the speaker end of the House. Looked to me like he was observing everything going on very closely...so he's certainly got a plan he's not shared yet.
 
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I have thoroughly read and digested all the ins and outs of the Labour Party's problem and in my carefully and balanced opinion I have concluded that:
1. It's labour MPs and members fault for electing a ****ing "Sir" as the leader of a supposedly working class party.
2. Streeting is a teemu Blair and an enormous ****.
 
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remembercolinlee said:
I have thoroughly read and digested all the ins and outs of the Labour Party's problem and in my carefully and balanced opinion I have concluded that:
1. It's labour MPs and members fault for electing a ****ing "Sir" as the leader of a supposedly working class party.
2. Streeting is a teemu Blair and an enormous ****.
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<laugh>

and completely agree with you.

The country is ****ed and it's going to break out into all out war tomorrow.
 
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brb said:
Suggestion seems to be if Streeting puts himself forward so will Raynor. They said Starmer and his allies were all going round after the Kings Speech to encourage their support for Keir.

From what I've gathered from Labour commentators and Union spokesmen, Labour aren't far enough left for them, and have forgotten about working class.

Going to be honest I fail to see how any millionaire whatever party they are from can understand the working class.

Seriously some of these people can never understand what it's like being the poorest in society.
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Nail on the head ... whilst personally I loathed Maggie (although I was a student and still idealistic), her, John Major, James Callaghan and (I think) Harold Wilson are the only Prime Minister's in my lifetime that didn't come through private education... so the only ones with a hope in Hell of having any real understanding of working class people...
 
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You should all consider moving to Finland tbh

Happiest country on earth they say
 
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brb said:
Yup pretty much all of that in nutshell.

You can see it from all of their perspectives and if Streeting don't go for it now, he'll probably never get chance again in the near future.

I noticed Miliband lurking in the commons, standing down by the speaker end of the House. Looked to me like he was observing everything going on very closely...so he's certainly got a plan he's not shared yet.
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Miliband has a job with the Southampton coaching staff
 
My previous statement about Wes Streeting being the most mediocre, forgettable man imaginable failed to take into account how forgettable Miliband is. I forgot him. Far wetter than Streeting too though you could imagine both attending an England Women’s match out of choice.
 
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FosseFilberto said:
Nail on the head ... whilst personally I loathed Maggie (although I was a student and still idealistic), her, John Major, James Callaghan and (I think) Harold Wilson are the only Prime Minister's in my lifetime that didn't come through private education... so the only ones with a hope in Hell of having any real understanding of working class people...
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Keir Starmer went to a Grammar School
 
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