Election 2024
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Labour MP biting the bullet saying she'll start the process to run against Starmer - she doesn't want to be PM and knows she personally can't win but hopes it will convince an actual challenger to be brave enough to come forward.
Andy Burnham is a genuine, bone fide, man of the people type, and clearly authentic, labour politician. Scouser as mayor of Manchester. If he was not the real thing, he'd have been gone ages ago.
Kier Starmer is a ****ing spiv with slicked back hair that is a million miles away from being a labour politician.
Sir Kier? Yeah, very labour, right?
Burnham is most likely labours only real hope, they need to get past whatever it is that means they 'can't' have him as a candidate.
Raynor is a dog. Wasn't she sacked anyway, why would they even be able to bring her back?
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She resigned - so much like Mandelson resigned twice under Blair, and was eventually sacked third time round.
If i understand it right, they can`t make him PM because he isn`t an actual MP he is a councillor.
They came up with some absolute waffle as to why he couldn’t stand in the by-election that dozy Green bint and the mujahideen won but eventually he’d get a chance. Wouldn’t mean he’d win unless it was a ridiculously safe seat and they’d need that safe seat to be up for grabs in the first place.
Trouble is NEC blocked him, wonder if they will have a rethink now. Need someone in a safe seat to resign now and create an opening for him. Unless there is another way?
Not sure his potential mayoral candidate
successor losing Manchester was "waffle"
(quite prescient given recent days) .
You'd think they'd have a word and get him to relinquish whatever it is that's stopping him.
Always assuming labour actually want him on board.
I can't emphasis enough that the reason Labour are consistently losing is because the current PM is extremely unpopular and has absolutely no skills with the public.
He is the PM because of FPTP and that is it, their 33% vote share was simply appalling.
A charismatic leader would sweep this next election, there are lots of British parties yes, but none of them are popular - someone who can connect with voters will easily maintain a majority.
I don't actually think Starmer has done a lot wrong. I mean he didn't handle the Mandleson issue brilliantly, but the actual substance stuff, he's been okay at, without being that dynamic. He's been better on the international stage, proving to be quite a decent statesman
When you look at the utter **** show under Cameron, May, Boris et al. Who spent 14 years ****ing things up, he's actually a breath of fresh air
But this is politics, where leaders are decided by popularity contest and public opinion is set by tik tok influencers, and Starmer is now looking like a sitting duck and Labour are only heading in one direction if they stick with him for much longer.
When you look at the utter **** show under Cameron, May, Boris et al. Who spent 14 years ****ing things up, he's actually a breath of fresh air
But this is politics, where leaders are decided by popularity contest and public opinion is set by tik tok influencers, and Starmer is now looking like a sitting duck and Labour are only heading in one direction if they stick with him for much longer.
Dunno if Manchester is Labour
'rosette on a pile of sh*t' or not
(if not then there could have been that risk) .
If it was 2010 he'd be doing fine.
Cameron btw needs a special mention as I truly believe he's one of the worst Prime Ministers Britain has ever had. His handling of the financial crisis was poor, his decision to have a Scottish referendum was poor (indyref was polling at 30% approval before Cameron got involved), his handling of the Brexit referendum was genuinely terrible - first having an IN/Out referendum with very little substantial debate, announcing what side he was on and then immediately resigning when he lost. **** politician, **** leader.
He was also just a poor Tory leader - lest we forget that he actually could have lost to Ed Miliband.