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And the “most predictable event of the week award” goes to………
You guessed it - Reams wants NJ sacked (again)
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Apparently despite the fact that we have the second lowest budget in the league and yet are 18th, if we survive it “won’t be seen as any type of achievement”.
I’m just surprised that DP and The Sheriff haven’t come in to support that view.
Oh hang on……..
You guessed it - Reams wants NJ sacked (again)
.Apparently despite the fact that we have the second lowest budget in the league and yet are 18th, if we survive it “won’t be seen as any type of achievement”.
I’m just surprised that DP and The Sheriff haven’t come in to support that view.
Oh hang on……..
He opens his bum and words come out.And the “most predictable event of the week award” goes to………
You guessed it - Reams wants NJ sacked (again)
Apparently despite the fact that we have the second lowest budget in the league and yet are 18th, if we survive it “won’t be seen as any type of achievement”.
I’m just surprised that DP and The Sheriff haven’t come in to support that view.
Oh hang on……..
Jones should get the chance to rebuild the midfield and attack and lead us into next season. If we stay up this season, which is likely, it is mission accomplished.
However, he should not be immune from criticism. The last two home matches were definitely winnable, yet we were poor throughout. Fresh blood was needed from the outset. Fullah, JRC and Fevrier did enough to warrant a start at Watford. We shall see...
However, he should not be immune from criticism. The last two home matches were definitely winnable, yet we were poor throughout. Fresh blood was needed from the outset. Fullah, JRC and Fevrier did enough to warrant a start at Watford. We shall see...
Jones may not be immune from temptation either.
If CAFC does have the second lowest budget in the Championship and he doesn't feel that's going to improve, he may go looking for greener pastures.
His stock may never be higher as gaffer of our Club than it will be this coming Summer.
If CAFC does have the second lowest budget in the Championship and he doesn't feel that's going to improve, he may go looking for greener pastures.
His stock may never be higher as gaffer of our Club than it will be this coming Summer.
Even NJ's staunch supporters are now questioning his tactical nous. Particularly his substitutions and players out of their natural position. Chambers is our only LWB, but was more of a midfielder to accommodate TC drifting out wide left, then TC moving to LWB, which he is not. Bringing on 34-year-old Luke Berry when you're chasing a goal, and leaving Kelman on the bench is another point raised. Although I must say we had 3 strikers already and were launching it up at every opportunity. Criticism of his tactics does not mean they are calling for his head, not by any means, but genuine questions are being asked.
It's all about shifting expectations I guess.
In August if we had been offered 49 points after 41 games I think most of us would have taken that.
But seven home defeats, very low scoring and only short periods in most games where we play well?
Added to the often strange substitutions and starting teams...
Perhaps a lot goes on in training that we don't know about.
Or it's this old thing about Jones freezing out players for a while for possibly little more than being annoyed with them (rather than for more relevant footballing reasons).
Championship survival is a great prize.
But we are failing to get over the line with anything to inspire fans.
Even official attendance figures have slumped of late, and I'm not surprised.
In August if we had been offered 49 points after 41 games I think most of us would have taken that.
But seven home defeats, very low scoring and only short periods in most games where we play well?
Added to the often strange substitutions and starting teams...
Perhaps a lot goes on in training that we don't know about.
Or it's this old thing about Jones freezing out players for a while for possibly little more than being annoyed with them (rather than for more relevant footballing reasons).
Championship survival is a great prize.
But we are failing to get over the line with anything to inspire fans.
Even official attendance figures have slumped of late, and I'm not surprised.
Sorry to say it but I’m starting to think maybe roll the dice at the end of this season.
We are truly woeful and have been for most of this season. Without real fortune earlier this season - sheff Utd with their two sendings off for example- and the momentum of a newly promoted side we’d have been relegated.
Jones has given us his all, he must be knackered, but maybe it’s time for a fresh start not just with a new playing squad?
We are truly woeful and have been for most of this season. Without real fortune earlier this season - sheff Utd with their two sendings off for example- and the momentum of a newly promoted side we’d have been relegated.
Jones has given us his all, he must be knackered, but maybe it’s time for a fresh start not just with a new playing squad?
I think NJ needs some help in making us more of a threat. We've not scored more than one goal in a game since 18th October, and we've spent a large part of our budget on strikers who haven't featured much at all at all. Dykes has gone off the boil now too, and has become another Stockley, spending too much time on his arse waving his arms about. Godden is the only one who is the real deal. How much of that is due to the lack of quality in our midfield is a question for NJ to answer, but we've signed players like Apter and Kelman who just don't fit the system we play, and we must do better this summer.
We were heading to L2 before Jones came in. We are now 19th out of 24 in the Championship and haven’t been in the bottom 3 all season. So two questions;
Who would you bring in and how would they do, given the facts contained in the two links below…….
Championship - Club market value
This page contains a statistic that shows a tendency of the development of the full market value of Championship up to the respective due date.
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Ok I have absolutely no idea who I’d champion to replace him with. I’m not even sure I would however to replace him doesn’t mean to indicate he’s done a bad job. He’s done a very good job.
The question is, for the second season in the championship (assuming we stay up which I believe we will) would we benefit from a different manager?
A new approach and new players are surely needed - is Jones the man for that?
The question is, for the second season in the championship (assuming we stay up which I believe we will) would we benefit from a different manager?
A new approach and new players are surely needed - is Jones the man for that?
I think you’d need to know what budget we’ll be working under next season (again, presuming we stay up).
If it’s the same or slightly more than this season then we simply cannot afford to make wholesale changes to our squad and playing style. That would cost too much and we’d exhaust the budget before we got anywhere near what we wanted.
People in Wales are saying that Jones wasted £10M last summer, but £10M is a pittance in terms of top or even mid-level Championship players.
We outplayed Leicester earlier in the season but lost due to an individual wonder goal from Abdul Fatawu. He alone is valued at £24M and there are dozens of individual players in the Championship valued at £10M+, none of whom play for Charlton.
You simply cannot build a competitive Championship squad, from where we started, if your kitty is £10M
Calling for Jones Out is just ridiculous in my opinion, unless there is a ‘better’ replacement lined up and you know that the budget will be vastly increased. Jones has performed way above what our budget would suggest, so I just don’t get what people expect. We cannot afford a midfield who will out-pass other teams and create lots of chances for the likes of Kelman and Godden to tap in.
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There's no chance of Jones getting sacked if we stay up, which looks very likely. And neither should he be. Football managers have a philosophy about how the game should be played, and I still don't know what his philosophy is. Is he really a long-ball merchant, or just being pragmatic? He was exactly what we needed when he came in, the defense was dreadful, the manager was a wet rag, and survival was key. Can he move on to the next stage, and make us more attacking without being picked off on the counter? That has to be the aim if we want to be a competitive force in the Championship.
Is there a single player in our 2025-26 squad who has improved this season playing under NJ?
My impression is no.
Some seem to be treading water (much the same now as they were in August) TC being an example.
Others appear to have slipped back from early good form.
If nobody from a squad of more than 30 guys is getting any better, is that not a big missing part of Jones' jigsaw puzzle for success?
My impression is no.
Some seem to be treading water (much the same now as they were in August) TC being an example.
Others appear to have slipped back from early good form.
If nobody from a squad of more than 30 guys is getting any better, is that not a big missing part of Jones' jigsaw puzzle for success?
Jones has been solid and deserves to be POTY.
Carey has regressed dramatically.
The likes of Apter and Tanto: pointless.
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Jones keeping us up means he has been a resounding success since he came to The Valley.
I hope that the last transfer window has shown that Chapple has more influence as the players brought in were an improvement. With this in mind I hope the summer brings in further improvements to the squad.
However, if we are still serving up the same s*** after ten games and are struggling I'd give him the boot. We cannot continue to play games where it is more important to not lose than win a game of football.
The next two home games could tip the balance between some occasional supporters buying a season ticket or not.
Will the youngsters (future fans) want to go to see turgid, losing football on a fortnightly basis? I think not.
As things stand, the product on offer is poor. If we could play with a little more verve, we could gain additional support, thus filling the coffers.
First off, the board needs to give Jones the cash to buy better players with which to improve the quality of football.
Will the moneymen speculate to accumulate?
Will the youngsters (future fans) want to go to see turgid, losing football on a fortnightly basis? I think not.
As things stand, the product on offer is poor. If we could play with a little more verve, we could gain additional support, thus filling the coffers.
First off, the board needs to give Jones the cash to buy better players with which to improve the quality of football.
Will the moneymen speculate to accumulate?