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That's about 3 days worth of phone thefts based on the above figures and 1 days worth of arrests?They're piddling money up against the wall at that rate.

In actual fact and to be fair,London is fairly well policed and their's plain clothes coppers everywhere.If something kicks off they're generally in the area and on it.The rest of the Country is nowhere near as well policed.
Most of the phone thefts are the same gangs of lads, so 248 arrests is excellent, they’ll need to keep arresting them as it will take multiple offences before they get banged up, but it’s a great start.
 
Most of the phone thefts are the same gangs of lads, so 248 arrests is excellent, they’ll need to keep arresting them as it will take multiple offences before they get banged up, but it’s a great start.
Must be a frustrating situation for police officers involved in the operation,arresting the same faces for the same crime,only for the courts to let them back on the Streets to carry out the same crimes.?

The legal system must up it's game and help put an end to the practice otherwise it's pointless targeting the thieves?Maybe the focus should switch to the fencing outfit responsible for shifting the goods on?

I did read recently that Mark Rowley was trying to reach out to the manufacturers/tech companies to render the phones useless if stolen but I'm not sure whether that's feasible or whether the Companies are actually interested in assisting.It would be interesting to know whether or not this is actually possible.

My wife is travelling down to London this weekend with my eldest daughter and I've told her to guard her Motorola E14 with her life,although if anyone did manage to nick it I think they'd cycle back and return it once they realised what they'd just snatched:emoticon-0103-cool:
 
Must be a frustrating situation for police officers involved in the operation,arresting the same faces for the same crime,only for the courts to let them back on the Streets to carry out the same crimes.?

The legal system must up it's game and help put an end to the practice otherwise it's pointless targeting the thieves?Maybe the focus should switch to the fencing outfit responsible for shifting the goods on?

I did read recently that Mark Rowley was trying to reach out to the manufacturers/tech companies to render the phones useless if stolen but I'm not sure whether that's feasible or whether the Companies are actually interested in assisting.It would be interesting to know whether or not this is actually possible.

My wife is travelling down to London this weekend with my eldest daughter and I've told her to guard her Motorola E14 with her life,although if anyone did manage to nick it I think they'd cycle back and return it once they realised what they'd just snatched:emoticon-0103-cool:

In addition to the phone getting stolen people who carry their bank cards in the phone cover lose those too. Bank cards that will soon have unlimited contactless payments, soon lose a lot of money.
Then when you try to cancel your cards from another phone or device the bank says that phone is not linked to that account.
Made the last bit up but is that what happens? Someone on here will know.
 
On that note last time down in London arrived at kings Cross and asked a helpful TFL worker about travel card / paying for tube. Not worth buying an oyster card but can use regular bank card, just tap and go but make sure you use same card both ends £2.80 a single journey and there is a maximum it will take if doing multiple journeys.
Then seeing many obviously foreign tourists laden with luggage struggling with card in hand at the barrier I thought it a very risky thing to be doing. Imagine the hassle of getting your card stolen in a foreign country.
 
In addition to the phone getting stolen people who carry their bank cards in the phone cover lose those too. Bank cards that will soon have unlimited contactless payments, soon lose a lot of money.
Then when you try to cancel your cards from another phone or device the bank says that phone is not linked to that account.
Made the last bit up but is that what happens? Someone on here will know.
Call me a luddite but I have still to get my head around contactless? We had a reasonably secure chip and pin system that gave us some sort of comfort that should we lose our card it would be highly unlikely for someone to guess our digits and run amok.

We then 'modernise' and move at pace to transform a lost card into a relative 'gift' to anyone stealing or finding it by allowing the card to simply be tapped on a machine to make a purchase...It's utter madness!!!

I got one of the lasses to organise me a monzo card several years ago,love it.You make a purchase,ding,phone alerts you to the sale and if it's not your sale you can freeze the card in the blink of an eye.Of course if I lost my phone,I'm a bit ****ed but all in all it's a revelation for me :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
In addition to the phone getting stolen people who carry their bank cards in the phone cover lose those too. Bank cards that will soon have unlimited contactless payments, soon lose a lot of money.
Then when you try to cancel your cards from another phone or device the bank says that phone is not linked to that account.
Made the last bit up but is that what happens? Someone on here will know.
I actually had to cancel my card last year, after getting scammed in Brough of all places (scam QR code sticker on the Brough Station payment sign).

I was on my way to London for a wedding, so not having a card was an issue, but the bank were great. They didn't cancel the card until I was back, instead they just told me how to turn it on and off with my phone each time I wanted to use it and nobody else could access it in between. Very efficient.
 
I actually had to cancel my card last year, after getting scammed in Brough of all places (scam QR code sticker on the Brough Station payment sign).

I was on my way to London for a wedding, so not having a card was an issue, but the bank were great. They didn't cancel the card until I was back, instead they just told me how to turn it on and off with my phone each time I wanted to use it and nobody else could access it in between. Very efficient.

That's another one to look out for, fake QR code things.

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Ive already stated it doesn't actually apply to me and im not scared to walk around anywhere late at night really, although when im in London im certainly more wary.

But it does apply to many millions of people in the UK including my wife who, along with her train colleagues, dont like walking to the station car park on late shifts after someone was sexually assaulted so they now wait for each other and walk in groups to their cars. It effects my daughter who doesn't like doing the late night dog walk in Bilton because there are groups of lads hanging around bus stops and street corners that make her feel vulnerable. And my 10 year old lad who wont go out on his bike any more on his own since some group of older bell ends shouted of him 'kid, can I look at your bike?'. Clearly not interested in how many gears it had.

So thats just 3 members of my immediate family that one way or another have been affected fairly recently in a way I don't believe they would have been in the 80s. I rode my bike around Bilton until 9pm at night in the 80s and didnt feel scared once. My sister walked the streets and was never bothered.

Maybe my family now are all just weak as piss and need to grow some balls, I dont know.
Without banging my own drum Jim,I'm a bit like yourself in that I fear very little in life.I don't spend a lot of time in Glasgow nowadays,as it's turned into a bit of a sh!thole in a very short space of time(I won't go into why I think it's happened but it's fairly obvious to me and many others),but there is a huge visible increase of group gatherings on street corners by people who aren't native to the City,so much so that new laws have been introduced in terms of dispersal orders in a mapped out area where it's become a problem.

Glasgow City Council dropped a huge bollock by pledging to rehouse anyone who came to the City who declared themselves homeless,and it has resulted in migrants heading North from major Cities in England to take advantage of this 'hospitality '.Glasgow City Council are now baulking at The expense and have publicly stated that they can't sustain their pledge,too little Too late!!


As I've already said,very little concerns me,although I need to accept that my age is a reality and I'm probably not as capable as I once was.But the one thing that does worry me nowadays is the fact that carrying a knife has suddenly become the norm in big cities.You only need to go onto X to see the machetes being pulled out when opposing groups meet.Glasgow was pretty much renowned for knife crime but did a lot of work in trying to suppress the carrying of weapons and to some extent it showed a marked success due to tough sentencing for anyone caught carrying.

My one worry nowadays is that the deterrent no longer seems to apply, because let's face it,someone could now stick a knife into you and disappear into the ether,never to be found.This also applies to rape cases and was evident in a recent case against 2 men who were to stand trial at Edinburgh High Court...One of them has vanished and left no trace,that's extremely concerning.
 
Without banging my own drum Jim,I'm a bit like yourself in that I fear very little in life.I don't spend a lot of time in Glasgow nowadays,as it's turned into a bit of a sh!thole in a very short space of time(I won't go into why I think it's happened but it's fairly obvious to me and many others),but there is a huge visible increase of group gatherings on street corners by people who aren't native to the City,so much so that new laws have been introduced in terms of dispersal orders in a mapped out area where it's become a problem.

Glasgow City Council dropped a huge bollock by pledging to rehouse anyone who came to the City who declared themselves homeless,and it has resulted in migrants heading North from major Cities in England to take advantage of this 'hospitality '.Glasgow City Council are now baulking at The expense and have publicly stated that they can't sustain their pledge,too little Too late!!


As I've already said,very little concerns me,although I need to accept that my age is a reality and I'm probably not as capable as I once was.But the one thing that does worry me nowadays is the fact that carrying a knife has suddenly become the norm in big cities.You only need to go onto X to see the machetes being pulled out when opposing groups meet.Glasgow was pretty much renowned for knife crime but did a lot of work in trying to suppress the carrying of weapons and to some extent it showed a marked success due to tough sentencing for anyone caught carrying.

My one worry nowadays is that the deterrent no longer seems to apply, because let's face it,someone could now stick a knife into you and disappear into the ether,never to be found.This also applies to rape cases and was evident in a recent case against 2 men who were to stand trial at Edinburgh High Court...One of them has vanished and left no trace,that's extremely concerning.
Nearly five years on and plod still haven't got the murderer of Corey Dobbe, from Hull, despite naming the killer, and circulating his picture.
 
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Nearly five years on and plod still haven't got the murderer of Corey Dobbie, from Hull, despite naming the killer, and circulating his picture.
I don't know much about the case but having just googled it I'd assume that the chances of bringing the accused to trial are slim at best?In fact in a world of 8 billion+ inhabitants I'd hazard a guess it's an impossibility.
 
From listening on today's walk .....a former met officer talking about a FOIR he made that showed 7 out of 10 met officers fail to make even one arrest a year!! And it won't just be the met. He talks about how, from his 1st hand knowledge, things have got so much worse. A part of the problem is a fear of being accused of racism. As if a police officer can influence the race of a person committing a crime. Absolute madness...... and same as it ever was :emoticon-0112-wonde
 
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You're the first idiot to make a first class tit of himself. Either that or you're a gammon snowflake who takes offence way to easily
Someone who can’t use the correct three letter word calling someone an idiot.Oh, the irony…
 
Someone who can’t use the correct three letter word calling someone an idiot.Oh, the irony…
To be fair, I'll take your word for it, you are the master of irony pointing out other people's mistakes when you're the biggest illiterate dumb twat around :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
Fast fingers, one shown one not, on the edits. :emoticon-0138-think


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Ey up, the bum chums are straight in. I've been in the pub all afternoon with friends (maybe an alien concept) and may make the odd finger slip, yet I'm still more than a match for Mr dumb ****e and his sycophants. Your buddy makes more spelling mistakes and errors than most but I don't jump on it every time because I know his dumb comments will give me every opportunity I need to pull him up :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
Ey up, the bum chums are straight in. I've been in the pub all afternoon with friends (maybe an alien concept) and may make the odd finger slip, yet I'm still more than a match for Mr dumb ****e and his sycophants. Your buddy makes more spelling mistakes and errors than most but I don't jump on it every time because I know his dumb comments will give me every opportunity I need to pull him up :emoticon-0148-yes:
Another one who can’t punctuate. I don’t make spelling mistakes, I do typos. To instead of too is just stupidity.
 
Ey up, the bum chums are straight in. I've been in the pub all afternoon with friends (maybe an alien concept) and may make the odd finger slip, yet I'm still more than a match for Mr dumb ****e and his sycophants. Your buddy makes more spelling mistakes and errors than most but I don't jump on it every time because I know his dumb comments will give me every opportunity I need to pull him up :emoticon-0148-yes:
Next time you're (not your) out in the pub ask said friends if nowadays 'bum chums' is considered as a homophobic slur. That is all, dog drool. :emoticon-0138-think


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