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My 85 year old aunt lives in Hackney and has done for 50+ years. She gets the tube regularly and walks to the shops every day. Never complained about being scared.

My old neighbour's relative got murdered in an off license in Millfield by the Shankhill butchers in the 1970s.

If we're using anecdotal evidence of whether the UK is safe or not, it depends where you grew up, because the past wasn't as safe as you think and the present isn't as dangerous.
How is she late at night?
 
My 85 year old aunt lives in Hackney and has done for 50+ years. She gets the tube regularly and walks to the shops every day. Never complained about being scared.

My old neighbour's relative got murdered in an off license in Millfield by the Shankhill butchers in the 1970s.

If we're using anecdotal evidence of whether the UK is safe or not, it depends where you grew up, because the past wasn't as safe as you think and the present isn't as dangerous.
Does she ever get the tube after 7pm and walk back to her home in the dark?
Just happily plodding along is she, not a care in the world?

Thank God she is around to show that all the other old people claiming to be too scared to leave their houses after dark are just lying old bastards.
 
What xenophobic bile?

You sound increasingly like the anti semitic racist Cheshire Blob with your sanctimonious claptrap.

I might not wake up in the morning. There again you may not. Sudden death in the night isn’t restricted to older people.
Oooh, thank **** for that, I'd rather be associated with him than a withered old racist like you
 
Does she ever get the tube after 7pm and walk back to her home in the dark?
Just happily plodding along is she, not a care in the world?

Thank God she is around to show that all the other old people claiming to be too scared to leave their houses after dark are just lying old bastards.

Are you really scared to leave your house after 7pm.. this sounds ridiculous - it's not late, shops open, restaurants open. Unless something has unfortunately happened to you to give you a bad experience, you seem to have got sucked into believing a lot of tosh.
 
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Are you really scared to leave your house after 7pm.. this sounds ridiculous - it's not late, shops open, restaurants open. Unless something has unfortunately happened to you to give you a bad experience, you seem to have got sucked into believing a lot of tosh.
He was asking if she did.
 
Are you really scared to leave your house after 7pm.. this sounds ridiculous - it's not late, shops open, restaurants open. Unless something has unfortunately happened to you to give you a bad experience, you seem to have got sucked into believing a lot of tosh.
Ive already stated it doesn't actually apply to me and im not scared to walk around anywhere late at night really, although when im in London im certainly more wary.

But it does apply to many millions of people in the UK including my wife who, along with her train colleagues, dont like walking to the station car park on late shifts after someone was sexually assaulted so they now wait for each other and walk in groups to their cars. It effects my daughter who doesn't like doing the late night dog walk in Bilton because there are groups of lads hanging around bus stops and street corners that make her feel vulnerable. And my 10 year old lad who wont go out on his bike any more on his own since some group of older bell ends shouted of him 'kid, can I look at your bike?'. Clearly not interested in how many gears it had.

So thats just 3 members of my immediate family that one way or another have been affected fairly recently in a way I don't believe they would have been in the 80s. I rode my bike around Bilton until 9pm at night in the 80s and didnt feel scared once. My sister walked the streets and was never bothered.

Maybe my family now are all just weak as piss and need to grow some balls, I dont know.
 
Try it in London. Birmingham and elsewhere on your own in the early hours.
You sound like a promoter for Escape From New York City .
I'll leave you to sit alongside the ones that love to fear the fear of the internet.
Don't worry Nige will save us !!!
Or will it be full pockets then leg it .
 
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Ive already stated it doesn't actually apply to me and im not scared to walk around anywhere late at night really, although when im in London im certainly more wary.

But it does apply to many millions of people in the UK including my wife who, along with her train colleagues, dont like walking to the station car park on late shifts after someone was sexually assaulted so they now wait for each other and walk in groups to their cars. It effects my daughter who doesn't like doing the late night dog walk in Bilton because there are groups of lads hanging around bus stops and street corners that make her feel vulnerable. And my 10 year old lad who wont go out on his bike any more on his own since some group of older bell ends shouted of him 'kid, can I look at your bike?'. Clearly not interested in how many gears it had.

So thats just 3 members of my immediate family that one way or another have been affected fairly recently in a way I don't believe they would have been in the 80s. I rode my bike around Bilton until 9pm at night in the 80s and didnt feel scared once. My sister walked the streets and was never bothered.

Maybe my family now are all just weak as piss and need to grow some balls, I dont know.
I misinterpreted your previous post as wasn't focused and reading too fast - I thought you were talking about how you felt in London.

That's not good for your family. My mother was a nurse in Hull when I was around 6/7 in the 1970s. Because of the Yorkshire ripper, women were being advised not to travel alone at night. As I wrote, the perception of safety in those times was greater looking back.
 
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You sound like a promoter for Escape From New York City .
I'll leave you to sit alongside the ones that love to fear the fear of the internet.
Don't worry Nige will save us !!!
Or will it be full pockets then leg it .
Malcolm Offord for me up here but it'll need to be a postal vote as I'm escaping to Lanzarote...

Snake Plisskin,Costa Teguise.
 
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I misinterpreted your previous post as wasn't focused and reading too fast - I thought you were talking about how you felt in London.

That's not good for your family. My mother was a nurse in Hull when I was around 6/7 in the 1970s. Because of the Yorkshire ripper, women were being advised not to travel alone at night. As I wrote, the perception of safety in those times was greater looking back.
Honestly mate, the whole country is now a far worse place. The easy 'answer' of 'we only think it is because its reported more now' just doesn't wash with me. It doesn't have to see fingers pointed at people of a certain race or age, it is just a general feeling people i know are feeling.
 
Or Wellington and Napoleon having a set to at Waterloo...Shocking, and interpol are still looking for Napoleons phone.
He's keeping his phone (!) warm under the top of his trousers I thought.:emoticon-0105-wink::emoticon-0105-wink:
After all, they say it's mightily chilly standing on the poop deck all day!

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