WAR! What is it good for?

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I'm a realist mate. It don't matter what my views are, life will deal with us in it's own way, the way fate chooses and as such life has consequences. If I killed your sibling you would never forget it and may like some do, choose to revenge it. Terrorism is fundamentally motivated by a past action.
Exactly, CK has his head up his arse.
 
I'm a realist mate. It don't matter what my views are, life will deal with us in it's own way, the way fate chooses and as such life has consequences. If I killed your sibling you would never forget it and may like some do, choose to revenge it. Terrorism is fundamentally motivated by a past action.

So all Jews across the world are to blame for Israel's actions and are legitimate targets?

Terrorism is fundamentally driven by fundamentalism, not some misplaced sense of restoration of justice.

It boils down to the question: if Israel hadn't have retaliated in any way, or even more: If Israel didn't exist at all, would there still be extremists who want all Jews dead? History shows us very clearly that the answer is yes.

To me, this is why it is so important that bloke who wrestled the older of the two bastards was himself a Muslim. Ahmed al Ahmed. He visibly demonstrated the utter nonsense of your "realism".
 
And now he cocks up a GIF to prove the point <laugh>

You sound like @PINKIE now, the art of deflection.
So all Jews across the world are to blame for Israel's actions and are legitimate targets?

Terrorism is fundamentally driven by fundamentalism, not some misplaced sense of restoration of justice.

It boils down to the question: if Israel hadn't have retaliated in any way, or even more: If Israel didn't exist at all, would there still be extremists who want all Jews dead? History shows us very clearly that the answer is yes.

To me, this is why it is so important that bloke who wrestled the older of the two bastards was himself a Muslim. Ahmed al Ahmed. He visibly demonstrated the utter nonsense of your "realism".

That's not what I said at all. It's what you say when you don't like being faced with reality.

Ahmed saw the wrong in what they were doing, as I would have done to.

If I went and killed an innocent kid on the street, do you not think people would want to retaliate and kill me, maybe even thoughts of killing my family.

The difference here being war, but Russian parents will hate Ukranians that have killed their children on the front line and visa versa.

It's what war does, it's what being a murderer or killer does, it breeds hatred and creates a cycle of more killing, more hatred. I think I even said at the time, you have probably got another century of hatred now.

The history books will never forget what triggered this and the history books will also note the response (referring to the concert massacre).

I support the Jews as I support Israel, I do not support killing. I support Ukraine, but it does not mean I support the killing of young Russian soldiers even if they are seen as the enemy.

I might want to erase Iran from the map at times, but that's generally through being unable to put it in context, that's generally through the hate put out by western media.

Twice you've compared me with @PINKIE now, trying to use our differences as some sort of leverage, **** off and give your head a wobble.

Realism is staring you in the face now Mr Kane, you wanted a response you've got one. Killing kids is not acceptable in any language, religion or land driven differences.
 
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Apparently these two were ISIS rather than anything to do with Palestine. The Palestine fanatics are using that to suggest that calling to “globalise the intifada” isn’t a call to kill Jews at all and this has nothing to do with their actions. The previous intifada was rather violent. So I can’t really have that this is a result of Israel’s actions.
 
Apparently these two were ISIS rather than anything to do with Palestine. The Palestine fanatics are using that to suggest that calling to “globalise the intifada” isn’t a call to kill Jews at all and this has nothing to do with their actions. The previous intifada was rather violent. So I can’t really have that this is a result of Israel’s actions.
A more articulate response that I can understand.

I can accept my thought process can be wrong, but CK wanted a thread boost and it's been quiet around this gaff since the update, so all in all it's created activity.

CK is still a nob though.
 
A more articulate response that I can understand.

I can accept my thought process can be wrong, but CK wanted a thread boost and it's been quiet around this gaff since the update, so all in all it's created activity.

CK is still a nob though.

I don’t think it’s unfair to say that there’s a not insignificant minority of Muslims globally who are anti-Jews and anti-West and, privately or otherwise, take some glee from this attack and previous acts of terrorism and that goes also for those living in the UK/Europe/US/Aus. Within that minority there’s going to be a minority who choose to do the acts as we’ve seen and we don’t know how many have been foiled or how much those who have slipped through the net could have been.

I still think most just want to crack on with their lives and do most of the boring **** we all do but that doesn’t mean there’s not a problem Western governments clearly can’t control. When I was growing up in and around London the only threat of antisemitism was from skinheads and nobody feared being killed. A lot has changed quickly and while I know plenty of those skinheads still hate Jews they’re not a serious concern.
 
You sound like @PINKIE now, the art of deflection.


That's not what I said at all. It's what you say when you don't like being faced with reality.

Ahmed saw the wrong in what they were doing, as I would have done to.

If I went and killed an innocent kid on the street, do you not think people would want to retaliate and kill me, maybe even thoughts of killing my family.

The difference here being war, but Russian parents will hate Ukranians that have killed their children on the front line and visa versa.

It's what war does, it's what being a murderer or killer does, it breeds hatred and creates a cycle of more killing, more hatred. I think I even said at the time, you have probably got another century of hatred now.

The history books will never forget what triggered this and the history books will also note the response (referring to the concert massacre).

I support the Jews as I support Israel, I do not support killing. I support Ukraine, but it does not mean I support the killing of young Russian soldiers even if they are seen as the enemy.

I might want to erase Iran from the map at times, but that's generally through being unable to put it in context, that's generally through the hate put out by western media.

Twice you've compared me with @PINKIE now, trying to use our differences as some sort of leverage, **** off and give your head a wobble.

Realism is staring you in the face now Mr Kane, you wanted a response you've got one. Killing kids is not acceptable in any language, religion or land driven differences.

why you dragging me into this **** ? <laugh>
 
You sound like @PINKIE now, the art of deflection.


That's not what I said at all. It's what you say when you don't like being faced with reality.

Ahmed saw the wrong in what they were doing, as I would have done to.

If I went and killed an innocent kid on the street, do you not think people would want to retaliate and kill me, maybe even thoughts of killing my family.

The difference here being war, but Russian parents will hate Ukranians that have killed their children on the front line and visa versa.

It's what war does, it's what being a murderer or killer does, it breeds hatred and creates a cycle of more killing, more hatred. I think I even said at the time, you have probably got another century of hatred now.

The history books will never forget what triggered this and the history books will also note the response (referring to the concert massacre).

I support the Jews as I support Israel, I do not support killing. I support Ukraine, but it does not mean I support the killing of young Russian soldiers even if they are seen as the enemy.

I might want to erase Iran from the map at times, but that's generally through being unable to put it in context, that's generally through the hate put out by western media.

Twice you've compared me with @PINKIE now, trying to use our differences as some sort of leverage, **** off and give your head a wobble.

Realism is staring you in the face now Mr Kane, you wanted a response you've got one. Killing kids is not acceptable in any language, religion or land driven differences.

This is your logic:

If I kill an innocent child on the street, it is totally understandable for that child's one thousandth cousin four hundred times removed to go and kill my one thousandth cousin three hundred times removed as an act of revenge.

It's your head that needs a wobble mate.

Forget Ponkie. This is Aber level bollocks.
 
This is your logic:

If I kill an innocent child on the street, it is totally understandable for that child's one thousandth cousin four hundred times removed to go and kill my one thousandth cousin three hundred times removed as an act of revenge.

It's your head that needs a wobble mate.

Forget Ponkie. This is Aber level bollocks.

Take my name outcha mouth

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