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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months

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brb said:
New Home Secreatary proper kicked off and SKY News have had to apologise for the language...

The Lib Dems instead of supporting her, said she was wrong in saying that migration has caused division in this country.

She just blew and good on her, she suggested he get out and walk around this country and see the division, I'm fed up with being called a ****ing Paki and told to go back home, this is the divisiveness it's caused. :emoticon-0165-muscl

The chair asked she apologise for her language, she did and said I was reflecting what happened.
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Fair play to her...
 
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brb said:
Nothing sensitive and complex about 20 young men jumping on a dinghy from a safe country, due to organised crime games.

I agree it's more sensitive and complex around young children and mothers, one that actually paid £45,000 to the criminal gang to get her family here. If they come from unsafe zone then I support a legal passage, but better to take the £45k off her ourselves then allow gangsters to run the show...

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It's a sensitive issue when people born in Britain are getting called pakis because the Tories, Reform and the Daily Mail have normalised racism
 
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Archers Road said:
It's a sensitive issue when people born in Britain are getting called pakis because the Tories, Reform and the Daily Mail have normalised racism
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Anyway tbph Archers, I've seen many a user on here use that term, I'm talking on this actual part of the board, I'm sure I've even seen @Spurlock use it, so do we blame that on him having read the Daily Mail or voting Tory or loving Nigel, which is it?
 
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brb said:
Anyway tbph Archers, I've seen many a user on here use that term, I'm talking on this actual part of the board, I'm sure I've even seen @Spurlock use it, so do we blame that on him having read the Daily Mail or voting Tory or loving Nigel, which is it?
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Well there's banter and there's bigotry, and grey areas in between, but basically there are certain words to be wary of, andwe all know what those words are. Being a pikey, you should know that.
 
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Archers Road said:
Well there's banter and there's bigotry, and grey areas in between, but basically there are certain words to be wary of, andwe all know what those words are. Being a pikey, you should know that.
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Thing is mate I'm not offended at being called a pikey, I have never been offended by it, but I had to stop other people calling me it in real life because other people were getting offended. I honestly don't care if they even call me a pikey in hate, it's a word, not a stone. It's quite endearing - I quite enjoy taking my horse down to the pub for the bantz...

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brb said:
Thing is mate I'm not offended at being called a pikey, I have never been offended by it, but I had to stop other people calling me it in real life because other people were getting offended. I honestly don't care if they even call me a pikey in hate, it's a word, not a stone. It's quite endearing - I quite enjoy taking my horse down to the pub for the bantz...

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<laugh>
 
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Solid Air 2 said:
it was more Starmer doing anything "controversial" and if he does chances are at the slightest criticism he will promptly disown his previous opinion .
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I agree mate and it's part of his character, he don't strike me as always comfortable in the public eye, fidgety and he tries to work hard at it, and when things go wrong instead of thinking calmly and rationally and being prepared to admit he got it a bit wrong, he panics and upsets people, that then makes him worse, even more uncomfortable and more fidgety and then becomes defensive.
 
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brb said:
Thing is mate I'm not offended at being called a pikey, I have never been offended by it, but I had to stop other people calling me it in real life because other people were getting offended. I honestly don't care if they even call me a pikey in hate, it's a word, not a stone. It's quite endearing - I quite enjoy taking my horse down to the pub for the bantz...
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brb said:
Nothing sensitive and complex about 20 young men jumping on a dinghy from a safe country, due to organised crime games.

I agree it's more sensitive and complex around young children and mothers, one that actually paid £45,000 to the criminal gang to get her family here. If they come from unsafe zone then I support a legal passage, but better to take the £45k off her ourselves then allow gangsters to run the show...

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Where're these people getting 45k from?
 
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Big Ern said:
Where're these people getting 45k from?
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No idea Ern, I didn't look into it, I've heard outrageous figures before but generally I think of it as £2k-£3k the cost, so did a quick google on this figure...

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The figure of
£45,000 paid to smugglers has been reported in recent news concerning human smuggling operations.

A British-based mother told Sky News she paid this amount to a people-smuggling network to transport a family of four to the UK from Turkey, with children under 11 costing half price. This payment was held in trust by a third party, such as a restaurant owner or money changer, and only released to the smuggler once the family had successfully arrived in the UK.

Other costs reported in the news for single-person journeys have varied widely depending on the route and method:
  • A migrant travelling from India to the US via South America paid a smuggler around $45,000 (£36,000) for the journey.
  • Average English Channel small boat crossings typically cost between €2,500 and €4,500 per person.
  • Historically, during the time of the Berlin Wall, professional smugglers charged up to 45,000 marks to help people cross the border.
People smuggling is a highly lucrative and dangerous business, with profits for criminal gangs soaring to an estimated £180 million annually. Authorities such as the National Crime Agency (NCA) are working to target these networks, which often use social media to advertise their services and exploit vulnerable people.
 
brb said:
Nothing sensitive and complex about 20 young men jumping on a dinghy from a safe country, due to organised crime games.

I agree it's more sensitive and complex around young children and mothers, one that actually paid £45,000 to the criminal gang to get her family here. If they come from unsafe zone then I support a legal passage, but better to take the £45k off her ourselves then allow gangsters to run the show...

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This shows the problem we face, but had Sucky posted that the left wing wet wipes would have gone full meltdown and Slurpy would have invited him to pray in a mosque
 
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