Apparently he was in charge of the Ghana national team up until last year.
Tonda Eckert named new Head Coach
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Apparently he was in charge of the Ghana national team up until last year.
I think a lot of them are just mentally weak rather than rotten. I don't think they get together and try to sabotage things when they are unhappy.Good. Because he's totally on my **** list.
Further to your point though I strongly feel that there's a core of them who are totally rotten. We've been through so many managers now of completely different styles, tactics and personalities that it's time to look at the character of the team itself
But when things go against them, which is going to be fairly often at clubs like Saints, they have no backbone or will to fight. They just sulk and retreat inwards, and as a lot of them are the more established players, it then spreads through the squad.
It really pisses me off that people don't take Ghanaian football seriously these days.
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Not as impressive as it sounds. Lincoln Saint's interview only lasted 2 minutes.
And that included the 1 minute and 59 seconds getting to the interview room.
Maybe it's the line of work I'm in but "experience" doesn't equal quality.
I've had some 20+ years experienced software engineers in my teams who were utter carp and just plodded along at their happy level and some straight out of uni who within a couple of years were taking lead roles in other companies. To be honest both have their place but that's not the actual point.
What experience brings you is the knowledge of the last time you cocked it up and to not do the same thing again and again. It doesn't make you (on it's own) a more skilled practitioner of your craft - that is based on innate skill, desire to improve and effort.
So I don't agree with "we need someone with 'experience'" but I do agree that we need someone with the skill, drive and the stones to do the job.
I just can't write off Tonda being that type of person because in the past someone else wasn't if the evidence starts to show that he's actually pretty good.
I've had some 20+ years experienced software engineers in my teams who were utter carp and just plodded along at their happy level and some straight out of uni who within a couple of years were taking lead roles in other companies. To be honest both have their place but that's not the actual point.
What experience brings you is the knowledge of the last time you cocked it up and to not do the same thing again and again. It doesn't make you (on it's own) a more skilled practitioner of your craft - that is based on innate skill, desire to improve and effort.
So I don't agree with "we need someone with 'experience'" but I do agree that we need someone with the skill, drive and the stones to do the job.
I just can't write off Tonda being that type of person because in the past someone else wasn't if the evidence starts to show that he's actually pretty good.
I think that you made the same point about Will Still.
It's not just one person that was employed from within the club that wasn't up to the job, it was all of them. We can't afford to waste time with an experiment right now.
And that included the 1 minute and 59 seconds getting to the interview room.
Actually it got as far as,
"Now listen you useless ****s...."
I did yes - and I'll keep saying the same thing because it's true in most professions.
Doesn't mean that I'm sold on if Tonda is the right choice for the job yet and none of my posts on this actually said outright give him the job. I just feel that if he keeps this team winning whilst he's got the interim job he shouldn't be discounted because he's not one off the usual rotary line or doesn't tick one of the trope boxes and I don't think SR will discount him at all as he's known to them.
His opening comment being, ‘ Hello, you load of Tossers’ Various interpretations of this are understood to have been taken.And that included the 1 minute and 59 seconds getting to the interview room.
Edit. Beat me to it.
An image from Lincs interview
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SR have employed Selles and Still, if that isn't enough to be wary of making a similar mistake then I want them out of my club.
garysfc
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Man management is key. I don’t think your ref really fits with the discussion is here.
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Perhaps, but it was more to play devils advocate on the point that Tonda has been written off as a candidate by most people because he's seen as yet another internal appointment, a younger person and / or has no previous experience doing this job at this level and not because he's actually crap.
At the end of the day it's an opinion and they all may very well be right.
If he does a decent enough job at being interim it gives the board some time as there will be a few more managers available soon, and if he does a really good job of it then perhaps he is actually worth the punt even with all the other baggage
Mainly because I have absolutely no idea who I'd pick from the current riders of the merry-go-round
I am sure the manager merry go round will continue as we get closer to Christmas, if Tonda continues to move saints up the table perhaps waiting for the right fit of manager will be a good strategy.
We are supposed to be building a squad that can compete in the Premier league. The same with the manager. I don't care if it takes 3 seasons. It's obvious SR are not capable of doing this. They have the funds but can't recruit, can't keep hold of people, can't plan.
We're a rudderless ship. No captain on the pitch, no captain on the bench, no captain in the boardroom.
We're a rudderless ship. No captain on the pitch, no captain on the bench, no captain in the boardroom.