Tonda Eckert named new Head Coach

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Should Tonda Eckert be given a permanent contract?

  • Yes, immediately

    Votes: 9 11.8%
  • Yes, if we beat Leicester

    Votes: 5 6.6%
  • Yes, if we beat Leicester and Millwall

    Votes: 14 18.4%
  • Yes, if we are unbeaten until January

    Votes: 6 7.9%
  • No, we need an experienced manager

    Votes: 6 7.9%
  • Until the end of the season, then re-assess

    Votes: 36 47.4%

  • Total voters
    76
I feel strongly about this mainly because I remember the Rupert Lowe appointments of Gray and Wigley when we were doing ok in the PL. Everyone knew that they were cheap yes men options and were doomed to fail.

Gray was a good coach and i can understand that appointment. WIgley's selection was bizarre .

I think that Tonda might prove to be a bit of a gem. Worthwhile giving him a chance until May and then make a decision.
 
It's not just 3 blokes though, hiring a manager from within the club has never worked out well, history is not on his side.
Hiring him straight after another 32 year old with more experience than him is just an accident waiting to happen.

Carrick has nearly 150 games under his belt with a win % over 40 he is patently less of a risk than a complete novice imo.

That’s why if you give him the job it’s just til the end of the season.

Of the names at the top of the betting you can likely discount 4 of the top 6 for various reasons - Rodgers, Martin, O’Neil, Hassenhuttl. That leaves Tonda and Carrick. For Carrick it is a big relocation so who knows how he feels about that and right now I don’t think we are a job that he would jump at.

Of course there will be other managers not listed by bookies (there isn’t even a betting market for it now as far as I can see), but that will be greeted with the “some nobody from abroad with no Champ/English experience”

As usual we only know snippets of what happens, and that’s usually 3rd/4th hand so nobody has a clue. We may have already reached out to a few managers who all told us they weren’t interested. We may have reached out to nobody and always wanted Tonda to come in. Tonda could be the next bright young manager if given the chance. He could be proper **** and we get relegated. Nobody knows at this point.

Interesting reading Blackmores comments about how Spors saw him as a potential replacement for Still longer term. Seems like the thinking was we could “do a Brentford” and promote from within (like they did with Frank and now Andrews). Again reads as if SR are thinking 2/3 years ahead and not about the now.

I believe that Still was never really on their radar back in March/April and he became available unexpectedly and it was an opportunity seen as too good to pass up.

Let’s see how the next few games go as it sounds like Tonda is getting them. Get 7 points plus and I’m fine with keeping Tonda til the end of the season. Should be more choice then (if Tonda doesn’t work out). Will be a huge rebuild job in the summer regardless of what happens this season. Feels like we say that every year!
 
Gray was a good coach and i can understand that appointment. WIgley's selection was bizarre .

I think that Tonda might prove to be a bit of a gem. Worthwhile giving him a chance until May and then make a decision.

He never went on to do much in the game though and Saints was his first job and Hoddle left him a winning team and we dropped like a stone.
 
An experienced manager with a decent record, i'm sure there is one out there somewhere!

Apparently they have interviewed 150!

Not fussed about where the experience or record comes from? (Within reason of course, not talking about John the manager of a Sunday pub team who’s won the league a few times)
 
Players don’t want to down tools though. Not an entire squad. Players want to win and be successful. They wouldn’t endorse someone who they have no confidence in.

Yeah maybe not the entire squad but having watched the utter dross for the last few seasons, who do you think cares from the starting 11? Not many of them. That's why I think we need a manager with a reputation and the balls to **** off those not interested
 
Yeah maybe not the entire squad but having watched the utter dross for the last few seasons, who do you think cares from the starting 11? Not many of them. That's why I think we need a manager with a reputation and the balls to **** off those not interested
Even if they don't care about the club, they will obviously all care about their careers.

Relegations and playing poorly in the championship isn't going to help any of them when they move to another club. THB for example has gone from England international to lower end championship quality. I cant see a PL team looking at him after this and last season.
 
Even if they don't care about the club, they will obviously all care about their careers.

Relegations and playing poorly in the championship isn't going to help any of them when they move to another club. THB for example has gone from England international to lower end championship quality. I cant see a PL team looking at him after this and last season.


Good. Because he's totally on my **** list. <laugh>

Further to your point though I strongly feel that there's a core of them who are totally rotten. We've been through so many managers now of completely different styles, tactics and personalities that it's time to look at the character of the team itself
 
Yeah maybe not the entire squad but having watched the utter dross for the last few seasons, who do you think cares from the starting 11? Not many of them. That's why I think we need a manager with a reputation and the balls to **** off those not interested

There are certainly individuals who seem more likely to kick up a fuss/down tools when they are unhappy, no doubt. But it could argued that maybe that is because they themselves are frustrated at the lack of ambition from the club, or the daft tactics/selections of certain managers.

It's easy to point the finger at, say, Downes, and I've been doing it too. But Juric was a f*cking prick, and we don't know the whole truth about what happened between them. It isn't fair to just assume Downes was the one in the wrong. As fans, we can't really relate to these players. We just think, '"Hey, that guy's being paid 50k a week, and yet he isn't giving his all on the pitch? What the f*ck? Get rid!". And that's it; that player is now the villain.
 
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