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Seems to be plenty missing the point, it wasn't what Acun said but what a number of posters interpreted it all to mean and then posted all the doom and gloom most of which has turned out to be incorrect.

See GFAW earlier post for examples.
 
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Not sure I've ever trusted a city owner, even Pearson had an ulterior motive to make coin and fortunately that involved the club becoming championship level. Sometimes easier to just ignore the rumours and behind the scenes stuff and just enjoy (or not) what's going on on the pitch. It was out of line when the owner was accused of theft/fraud by several posters with no evidence other than a caterer not getting paid.

Where was the fraud allegation?

He obviously had liquidity issues as he's alluded to himself but I don't recall there being an allegation of fraud,
 
Seems to be plenty missing the point, it wasn't what Acun said but what a number of posters interpreted it all to mean and then posted all the doom and gloom most of which has turned out to be incorrect.

See GFAW earlier post for examples.

What turned out to be incorrect?

Are you now saying he wasn't struggling to provide liquidity?

If he wasn't then why where the changes he alluded to necessary?
 
What turned out to be incorrect?

Are you now saying he wasn't struggling to provide liquidity?

If he wasn't then why where the changes he alluded to necessary?

I would have given you the whole long list (yet again) ... but it seems like some don't like me pointing out that I was right all along, so I'll resist :emoticon-0105-wink::emoticon-0136-giggl
 
... because apparently he's lost all interest, he's bust, we're bust, he can't & isn't even paying the milkman, he's a fraud, he's selling us, (and far far worse all said at the time) :emoticon-0136-giggl I was finding it funny on this thread that what was said on these matters was being conveniently overlooked.

From minutes 6 to 10. "coming to what happened in summer ..... was not based on financial problems (as in not 'broke') ... but... completely based on technical problems. If it was lack of money then we would have sold Hughes for £10 million for example and wouldn't have done things that have been done". "Betrayal by Villa" (without naming them) for going back on their agreement to offset monies owed to each other and error by his staff for not understanding that the agreement carried this risk.

Like you, I'm not sure if the (personnel) changes made at a finance level relate to City or the parent organisation, not that it matters that much to our discussion. He's clearly been let down by incompetence of those he's delegated to (not just on the Villa agreement) and was clearly pissed off about it. Also noting that, once again, he readily accepts ultimate responsibility for the situation .... and has learned from it and acted.

So now pretty much everything I said at the time has now been fully vindicated and proven. No arse-liking involved, just keeping a level head while rationally looking at what was happening, what was being said by the club and bits I'd been told. All the abuse I got from some for simply being correct eh.

Yes, he probably talks and wears his heart on his sleeve a bit too much. But if we want his passion, his commitment, his ambition, the profile, his money etc etc then imo we need to embrace / accept how he is and enjoy the ride.

Btw, I'm not sure it does add value when he doesn't own the ground and it's surrounds. The famous old Allam quote comes to mind. Moving the 1st team to a new location and having the academy join them there would to my mind be the better move, but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be happening. I'm sure they, as with previous regimes, must have considered doing so but for whatever reasons keep deciding against it. There must be good reason as it keeps happening.

p.s. I really don't want to re-open the debate. I know what I posted and I knew it was correct all along. I know what some others posted and it was wrong, and in some cases shameful. It's gone and the future looks bright (if only our injury curse would end).

On the adding value thing, as the ground is intrinsically linked to the football club - which he does own - any improvements to, or surrounding, the ground, does add value to the club, despite not having direct ownership of the ground. What he's essentially doing is adding value to our lease agreement.
 
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Wonder who we will go to next for a kit supplier.

Adidas and Nike are good quality but the designs are so boring. Adidas use the exact same template for every club, just different colours. Castore would be one to avoid.


Totally agree. I hate seeing templated kits, it’s ****ing disgusting the amount of money they charge and make. I always loved our Umbro designs, but think they’ve gone downhill these days too, and connected to Castore now. What about Hummel?
 
If it's as close as he's claiming he would be able to show plans as a bare minimum, We both know how long construction projects like this take in the country.


I remember a huge sinkhole opening up in Tokyo a few years back. 36 hours later you couldn’t see a single ****ing scratch.
 
Hummel, Errea and Umbro would be my preference.
I had a look at the proposals errea had done for City when I took Les Motherby and another City fan for a look around the errea HQ in Parma. They were class, something totally different but bound to be a big hit if ever used.

As it stands errea are in the running but not the box seat.
 
I had a look at the proposals errea had done for City when I took Les Motherby and another City fan for a look around the errea HQ in Parma. They were class, something totally different but bound to be a big hit if ever used.

As it stands errea are in the running but not the box seat.

They do make some nice kits. Do you know who is the front runner for our next kit supplier?
 
From the latest 1904 Club it sounds like the proposal for the academy development at the stadium is quite limited, centred around a redevelopment of the existing artificial pitches which the Allams left to rot. A cost of £2m was mooted, which surely can't cover much. Perhaps that explains how it can be done in such a short timeframe.
 
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