Match Day Thread Manchester United FC v Sunderland AFC - Saturday 4th October 2025 - KO 15:00

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I'm predicting 1-1 or 1-2 with Amorim sacked by Monday
 
Didn't ashworth leave Newcastle to go to Manchester United and not the other way?

Aye it was the other way around, Ashworth then supposedly left Man U after a disagreement on the appointment of Amorim. Turns out he was right.
 
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https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/s...is-le-bris-reveals-son-manchester-united-fan/

REGIS Le Bris has only been to Old Trafford once before - and that was as a spectator with his Manchester United-supporting son!

But tomorrow Noah will be in the Sunderland end supporting his dad's team as the Black Cats look to continue their superb start to the Premier League season and heap more pressure on beleaguered Ruben Amorim. It was back in 2015 that Le Bris was last at Old Trafford when he was a neutral observer to watch Manchester United beat Manchester City 4-2...

"Being at Old Trafford demands strong personality and strong character," said Le Bris. "I still believe that we'll need to upgrade our performance to be competitive in Manchester. I've been once [to Old Trafford] as a spectator with my son. I need to say that he is a huge fan of Manchester United. He will probably support Sunderland on Saturday. He is sat in the Sunderland end!"

United lost to Brentford last time out and Amorim has won just nine of his 33 Premier League games in charge. But Le Bris said: "They are strong, create many chances from everywhere, direct play in behind, set pieces, with talented players. Now it’s just a question of click, confidence, circumstances, scenario. For us, the only thing we can control is our way of playing, the way we want to play this game, to face this challenge, being aware that it will be tough."

Asked what he's made of United's start, Le Bris added: "I don't know exactly because my focus is only on us. And every weekend, obviously we'll analyse our opponent and it's just a short focus and we try to find the right way to manage their strengths, how they can create danger and we try to find a solution to get opportunities and to win the game. After that, I don't have a specific opinion about the club. It's a huge club with a big history. They are strong players, so hard to beat."

He does, however, believe the Black Cats are in a good position to cause Manchester United problems tomorrow and add to their misery.

"Yes, absolutely," he said. "Even against a squad with a strong momentum like Crystal Palace, we try. Every game is an opportunity. We don't know before what will be the scenario. Football is still unpredictable and one decision making can change the whole dynamic. So, knowing that, we try our best to get points. Simply."

Amad Diallo missed Manchester United's game at Brentford because of a family bereavement but returned to training this week and Sunderland are to set to face the winger who starred on loan at the Stadium of Light three seasons ago.

"His spell here was really important and the coaching staff like him and as a person and as a player. Now he’s an opponent. It’ll be great at the end to say hello but during the game we won't be friends!"

Not since West Ham 13 years ago have a promoted team started as well as Sunderland this season, but Le Bris says it's vital the Black Cats keep their feet on the ground.

He said: "Keep writing it! Absolutely. We have a good balance, many young players with big ambition and more experienced players like Granit, Reinildo, Omar...we share the ambition and we know that we might fail, but it won't be the end of the world. We lost to Burnley and it wasn't a disaster, we were ready straight away to work again. It will happen again, I think. Not too high, not too low."
 
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I’m randomly in Zurich this weekend. Any suggestions for a bar with the game on welcome. Any other general suggestions welcome cos I know the square root of **** all about Zurich.
 
It's mental how I was more worried about Nottingham Forest away than I am about Man U.

It will be a very tough game, no denying they have some great players but it is the formation and tactics that are lacking, and we have a master tactician as a head coach. It's like a free hit for a promoted side, but with an increased chance we do well there.

Saying that, there's a UK wide weather warning for tomorrow so could see a few games postponed.
 
Exciting times. Old Trafford and Man Utd again. I remember times we would go there and fancy our chances. Feels like a lifetime ago though. Now I fancy us again. And that is more about us and how we approach games, than them.

I am not sure I would play Masuaka for this one. Other than that the same side would do me. Maybe Hume left and Geertruide righ backs. I dont know tbh, but Regis will. What a coach he is turning out to be. I have complete faith, and I havent said that probably since Reidy. I have respected all of our coaches, some a lot more than others, since then. But it feels like we have struck gold with Regis.
 
As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I got into a discussion with someone on a football thread on reddit about us. He basically said no team has stayed up since Forest so we will go down, I pointed out that if he was going to use the past as a marker no team has had 11 points from 6 and went down in the history of the Premier League.

Then had some back and forth basically he reckoned we were a long way away on 11 but his team Wolves on 1 will be fine! Has us getting 'a mauling' on Sat and probably losing most of the next 10. He insisted he had watched some of our matches and we weren't as strong as I made out and we had just had an easy run!

He stopped replying when I pointed out if I'd asked him before each match he would have had us losing to them all but in particular there is no way he would have gave us a chance against Brentford, Palace, Villa or Forest and likely would have predicted a mauling by Palace, Villa and Forest. Villa would have been turned over but for a stupid kick out by a player.

Other fans can continue to have us as just lucky etc... as most won't find the time or need to watch Sunderland. Pundits and in some cases fans of teams who have played us are saying different after actually watching.

I am confident of the season ahead obviously anything can happen and will never be 100% but I don't think this coaching team or the lads themselves would let the wheels fall off. Even in the harder runs they will battle in every match, if that defence stays as solid as it has been we are in with a chance against anyone!
HWTL Amand **** the rest long may it continue where we are "just Sunderland who have won cause of the other teams not because if how our lads performed!"

Your Wolves 'pal' is missing a few important points.

Wolves possibly have a few better players than Sunderland but don't have our depth in my opinion.

The difference is that Wolves will have more 'off days' than us, I wouldn't expect to see us surrender at home to Leeds for example. That was after they'd gone ahead but lost confidence in themselves and just fired in hopeful shots.

As for Man Utd I think the bookies odds are slightly skewed. Of course they should win but the pressure will have a major effect tomorrow. They're conceding goals through mistakes, regularly, by surrendering space behind and over attacking. The pressure is all on them and I don't think they'll enjoy playing us.
 
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Great news. He's supposed to be back in full contact training after the international break. It looks like he could possibly be doing that now.

He'll be like a new signing and great competition on the left.
He doesn't have to be a guaranteed starter now like last season aswell so we can be patient with him.
 
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I'm trying to not get carried away, but lets say that I've enjoyed this week looking forward to the possibility that we can go to Old Trafford and possibly win. This is the first time I've ever realistically thought that. And if not win, then at least match them in the game.

Even the home game in the Kevin Phillips era that Ferguson called our game the biggest of the season, I didn't think we would win.

Bad thing is I think Amad might be back and he can change things in an instant - along with a few others they have, especially on set pieces. They just have to click a few times, but then so do we.

So I think just sit back and enjoy!