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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months

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Welshie said:
I think the greater issue her for future freedoms and, more so nationstates making their own decisions, is the growth of AI and the fact that only two nations on the ****ing planet are actively working on this stuff, the US and China. They have a complete monopoly over one of the most powerful modern day inventions.

Whilst AI doesn't do great at everything, it's ability to crunch data, self improve and rapidly grow is concerning, we have no answer to it. What pisses me the most off about the UK is that we sell EVERYTHING, if we did develop a growing AI company in only 5 years if would be another American owned one. We haven't got an answer to it.

My tinpot theory, mark my words: UK the 51st state.
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I just don’t see the need for digital ID. You already need ID like a passport, driving license or birth certificate to gain lawful employment in the UK. So if you’re trying to stop immigrants from working, then most of those who are doing so illegally, aren’t going to be looking for this type of employment and will still go into door drops, barbers, food and hospitality and cash in hand jobs.

I just see the potential pitfalls, both accidental like data breaches and deliberate hacking, and its potential to be abused by future overreach. When you tie in digital technology with face recognition and digital access to finances etc, it’s not a far fetched scenario to see somebody either abusing that power from a political perspective or from a cyber attack to steal your ID and your money.

Also as you mention about AI and the tech industries controlling the narrative. Who’s to say that ****in Elon won’t be able to call the shots over somebody like the US president in the future.

Like you, he is a basically a card carrying fascist :bandit:
 
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PINKIE said:
I just don’t see the need for digital ID. You already need ID like a passport, driving license or birth certificate to gain lawful employment in the UK. So if you’re trying to stop immigrants from working, then most of those who are doing so illegally, aren’t going to be looking for this type of employment and will still go into door drops, barbers, food and hospitality and cash in hand jobs.

I just see the potential pitfalls, both accidental like data breaches and deliberate hacking, and its potential to be abused by future overreach. When you tie in digital technology with face recognition and digital access to finances etc, it’s not a far fetched scenario to see somebody either abusing that power from a political perspective or from a cyber attack to steal your ID and your money.

Also as you mention about AI and the tech industries controlling the narrative. Who’s to say that ****in Elon won’t be able to call the shots over somebody like the US president in the future.

Like you, he is a basically a card carrying fascist :bandit:
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Is it wrong that since having a kid my attention span lasted to the bolded bit before I just stopped reading it <laugh>
 
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I think opinions are interesting, and actually a lot of what @Welshie says makes sense, and I can see the positive aspects of ID Cards and it's probably easier in a debate to agree with them than to disagree with them.

To summarise the postives of an ID Card is convenience, everything in one place, great. However, I feel a lot of problems in this country have come about because of convenience...

It's convenient as a Christian not to go to church anymore, it's convenient not to have kids anymore, it's convenient that shops are now open on Sundays, it's convenient not to have to cook a Sunday roast like my mum used to every weekend. It's convenient that pubs are open all hours, it's convenient the internet, it's convenient takeaway deliveries.

But then look at that convenience a bit closer, it breaks down the fabric of our social structure, so convenience becomes damaging, so much so we all want to work from home now and not engage with one another anymore. The convenience of ID cards will be fine for me, but there will be someone it singles out, someone it will exclude from society for whatever reason, afterall that's the actual reason behind us wanting them, thinly veiled discrimination of sorts.

Soz, gone on a bit lol.
 
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brb said:
I think opinions are interesting, and actually a lot of what @Welshie says makes sense, and I can see the positive aspects of ID Cards and it's probably easier in a debate to agree with them than to disagree with them.

To summarise the postives of an ID Card is convenience, everything in one place, great. However, I feel a lot of problems in this country have come about because of convenience...

It's convenient as a Christian not to go to church anymore, it's convenient not to have kids anymore, it's convenient that shops are now open on Sundays, it's convenient not to have to cook a Sunday roast like my mum used to every weekend. It's convenient that pubs are open all hours, it's convenient the internet, it's convenient takeaway deliveries.

But then look at that convenience a bit closer, it breaks down the fabric of our social structure, so convenience becomes damaging, so much so we all want to work from home now and not engage with one another anymore. The convenience of ID cards will be fine for me, but there will be someone it singles out, someone it will exclude from society for whatever reason, afterall that's the actual reason behind us wanting them, thinly veiled discrimination of sorts.

Soz, gone on a bit lol.
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I've said on here quite a bit that I am a democratic minded person and at the end of the day, if people don't want it I would say no way does it happen and that's that.

The party I tend to support, the Lib Dems, are 100% against it. So I see both sides of the debate here.
 
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SKY keep banging on about Reform it's getting boring now, I can only think it's a slow news day.
 
brb said:
SKY keep banging on about Reform it's getting boring now, I can only think it's a slow news day.
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I think Sky are a Reform leaning channel. Sky Australia certainly are, absolutely no idea why they are always popping into my feeds, all they seem to do is chat about the UK.
 
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Welshie said:
I think Sky are a Reform leaning channel. Sky Australia certainly are, absolutely no idea why they are always popping into my feeds, all they seem to do is chat about the UK.
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I found some stuff you get in your feeds depends on where your VPN is routing you from.
 
brb said:
I found some stuff you get in your feeds depends on where your VPN is routing you from.
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So Welshie’s feed is full of reform and anti immigrant stuff

there’s a surprise :bandit:
 
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PINKIE said:
Twitter is a ****ing cesspit of rage bait
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What I do when I go on Twitter now, is straight to the search bar, and input the names of those I want to see, so like football streams, or what our owners have been saying. I leave it for two or three days (even more), then catch up via that method or anyone I think is interesting, quite like the funny stuff, there's two accounts i think are quite good for stuff 'Figen' (2.4M followers) and Massismo (3.4M followers)...

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