Off Topic The threat from the Far-Right (or left)

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Blond Bombshell said:
How did Tommy Robinson manage to rally 150,000 in central London?

Far-right activist Tommy Robinson is among those tapping into a "sense of disquiet" in the country, a Cabinet minister has told the BBC, after thousands joined a march and counter-protest in London on Saturday.

Business Secretary Peter Kyle said marchers were demonstrating freedom of association and freedom of speech, after up to 150,000 joined a "Unite the Kingdom" rally, organised by Robinson and about 5,000 took part in a counter-protest, co-ordinated by Stand Up To Racism.

But he told Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg the "small minority" who had committed violence would be held accountable.

Twenty-six police officers were injured, the police said, and 24 people arrested for a range of offences.

Kyle criticised Elon Musk's comments after he appeared at Saturday's rally via video link telling protesters to "fight back" or "die"

"I thought that they were slightly incomprehensible comments that were totally inappropriate", the minister said.

The tech billionaire also referred to massive uncontrolled migration and called for a change of government in the UK.

Speaking about Saturday's protests, Kyle said moments like these were "klaxon calls" for those in power to redouble their efforts to address the big concerns people have, including on immigration.

"What worries me most is the divisions in our society and other societies and other democratic societies ... it's not even the left and the right at the moment, " he told the programme.

Figures like Robinson were able to "touch into a sense of disquiet and grievance in the community in our society", he said.

"A lot of it goes back to its roots in the financial crisis and the impact that had on communities around the country, and we haven't been able to bring our communities back together again since," Kyle continued.

BBC News - Robinson tapping into disquiet in the country, says minister
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnvr5782yp3o

Does anyone believe the Far-Right will be able to change Britain, and even western democracy, for the better?
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There were over 2.5 million there.dont believe the BBC
 
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Nonsense Potter said:
The turnout in London yesterday was massive. You don’t get crowds like that unless something is badly wrong, and politicians who try to brush it off are kidding themselves. People are angry, people want change, and ignoring that is dangerous.

But let’s be clear – Farage is not the answer. He thrives on division and easy soundbites, but when it comes to fixing anything that actually matters, he’s a ****ing void.

And even if he (or anyone else) scraped their way into government, what would it change? We’ve seen it over and over – red rosette, blue rosette, doesn’t matter. Different slogans, same results. Because the truth is the system itself is broken. Power is hoarded at the top, parties chase headlines instead of solutions, and the rest of us are left watching the same tired circus.

If yesterday proved anything, it’s that people want real change – and that only comes from breaking this cycle. Communities need more control over their own futures. Power needs to be pushed down, not hoarded in Westminster. And we need proportional representation, so every vote actually counts.

Farage offers none of that. He’ll happily hijack the anger, but he won’t hand power back to the people. He's as establishment as they come.

False prophets ain't gonna help.
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He is the best we have at the minute
 
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Bob the Mackem said:
He is the best we have at the minute
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That’s a sad state of affairs, if true.

Farage is a grifter who’s just stumbled on the opportunity of his lifetime. The Trump wave has handed him a platform on a silver platter. He can dodge real debate until the next election, serving up soundbite after soundbite with nothing solid to judge him against.

Politically, he shouldn’t even be relevant — but folk will lap it up because, as you’ve said, the alternatives are ****e: tried, tested, and proven liars.

Make no mistake, he’s a liar too!

He’s only getting this moment partly because of Starmer’s ineptitude — but more than that, because every one of his predecessors has been just as ****e and the whole system’s fundamentally ****ed!

That’s why he looks like an option, but if he actually succeeds it won’t be a revolution, it’ll be a tragedy!
 
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Nonsense Potter said:
That’s a sad state of affairs, if true.

Farage is a grifter who’s just stumbled on the opportunity of his lifetime. The Trump wave has handed him a platform on a silver platter. He can dodge real debate until the next election, serving up soundbite after soundbite with nothing solid to judge him against.

Politically, he shouldn’t even be relevant — but folk will lap it up because, as you’ve said, the alternatives are ****e: tried, tested, and proven liars.

Make no mistake, he’s a liar too!

He’s only getting this moment partly because of Starmer’s ineptitude — but more than that, because every one of his predecessors has been just as ****e and the whole system’s fundamentally ****ed!

That’s why he looks like an option, but if he actually succeeds it won’t be a revolution, it’ll be a tragedy!
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It's really frightening that someone so clearly fake can fool so many people and make them so fanatical.

Hitler was an Austrian weirdo who convinced millions of decent German people that he had some great ideas ...

... it wasn't until it all ended in chaos that people woke up to the awful reality.
 
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Smug in Boots said:
It's really frightening that someone so clearly fake can fool so many people and make them so fanatical.

Hitler was an Austrian weirdo who convinced millions of decent German people that he had some great ideas ...

... it wasn't until it all ended in chaos that people woke up to the awful reality.
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This is sooo true, and all I see is the west sleep walking into the same scenario
 
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rooch 3 said:
The only bit that isn’t true is he’s the best there is.
If Labour carry on the way they are it won’t matter how ****e he is, he’ll probably win by a landslide.
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That's literally the only bit I was referring to.

Labour are a sack of useless crap.

The Tories are a sack of useless crap.

Both are immeasurably more capable of leading the nation than the reform ****.
 
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This this and this again.

why anyone would believe this lying, grifting charlatan is beyond me. Perhaps the working class that do need to see the NHS and public service dismantled before they realise he is the lying front for non dom billionaires who wouldn’t piss on the working class if they were on fire.
 
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Northumberland Rocks said:
This this and this again.

why anyone would believe this lying, grifting charlatan is beyond me. Perhaps the working class that do need to see the NHS and public service dismantled before they realise he is the lying front for non dom billionaires who wouldn’t piss on the working class if they were on fire.
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I take it ,you don't like him.
 
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