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Match Day Thread Liverpool v Atletico Madrid

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  1. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    The old league was short though and there was jeapordy in that you could go out if you didn't take it seriously.

    How the **** RM and PSG made that a reality in the new format is beyond my comprehension.
     
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  2. Bumps

    Bumps Well-Known Member

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    Only way to solve dead rubbers is the original and by far superior product
    If they need to tweak it you can seed it
    Knockout eliminates the dead rubbers though
     
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  3. saintanton

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    You mean the old European Cup format - knockout from the off?
    Trouble is, we know UEFA just want more games and more dosh - they're not interested in fairness as long as the money keeps rolling in.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    The top sides now have far less jeopardy

    But if we take our English goggles off then the sides who can now "make it past" the league phase has increased.

    This means more money for mid ranked teams but in reality they end up with a firmly big team from 8th to 16th beating the crap out of them in the round of 32.

    So smaller leagues get a smidge more money, we get a boring league as nobody is watching the 3rd seed teams beating 4th seed teams etc and then we get another round of games for a last 32 thst also clogs up the calendar.

    But those middle glut of clubs are all getting more cash and more games.
     
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  5. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    You get more money for finishing higher and winning more games.
     
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  6. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Does that matter though? Who cares how you compare to others? It’s about getting into knockouts and the teams of lfc quality should always do this.
     
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  7. Solid Air 2

    Solid Air 2 Well-Known Member

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    It was the clubs , including ours , who wanted more money who forced UEFA to change EC into the CL and again it was the clubs who pushed for this type of format .
     
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    Can't remember that far back. :)
     
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  9. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    That's not true actually. The main driver of the change was Berlusconi (A C Milan owner at the time) who was horrified that the champions of both Italy and Spain were knocked out in the first round of the EC, together with wanting to gain financially personally by changing the format. Berlusconi wanted a new format which ensured the biggest teams from Europe's biggest league stayed in the competition longer. Oddly enough the other big driver for change was Rangers.

    I think you're getting mixed up with the creation of the Premier League.
     
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  10. Bumps

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    Yeah
    Exactly what I meant
    For me the EC was perfect
    All league winners
    Knockout format
    All games had jeopardy
    I understand the reasoning just don’t agree with the powers that be
    I liked the EC
     
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  11. Solid Air 2

    Solid Air 2 Well-Known Member

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    all the "big" european clubs formed a group and were pushing for the EC to be expended / financially more rewarding
     
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  12. Solid Air 2

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    are this lot still as dreadful to play as they used to be ?
     
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  13. Gerrardsitchyear

    Gerrardsitchyear Well-Known Member

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    They won la liga in 2020-21. Finished third i think last season after being in the hunt for most of the season.

    Won 1, lost 1, drawn 2 of their league games so far this season, but that win came at the weekend, beating Villareal (who spurs beat 1-0) 2-0.

    They're a decent side.
     
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  14. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom!
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    ****ing dread playing them, dullest game in world football <wah>
     
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  15. The IncREDibles

    The IncREDibles Well-Known Member

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    I've barely watched them since the last time we played them, but supposedly they've shifted slightly away from the dull football of those days. Having said that, Alvarez isn't available.

    Either way, I'd expect a really dull first half at least, and wouldnt be surprised if it ends in a draw.
     
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  16. Garlic Klopp

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    I predict at least one red card or a player getting two yellows
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    U19s playing v atletico too.

    Hall; Esdaille, Pinnington, Lucky, Ayman; Upton, Nyoni; Morrison, Sonni-Lambie, Kone-Doherty; Wright

    So nyoni wont be on the bench thats for sure even though he can be b list.

    In other news will wright has just had the lfc striker curse strike him and he has been stretchered off sadly.
     
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  18. Zanjinho

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    They were still dull when they had Aguero and then Felix up front
     
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  19. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    The creation of the PL and the CL happened at the same time in 1992. I have no memory of English clubs pushing on two fronts for new formats at the same time. I can find nothing that suggests what you are saying is correct. We have had one change after another, all money motivated, as you say and we'll no doubt see another new format in years to come.

    Anyway ..... as you were. :bandit:
     
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  20. Garlic Klopp

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